There are those who would have sworn that Quest would never go on Twitter. But surprise, we are there, posting totally raw and unedited commentary, especially during games, but not limited to just then.
Another thing many or most would assume we would never achieve would be database capability, which often separates the men from the boys with respect to more sophisticated internet sites. We as of the first of June 2009 achieved database capability. All systems are go, Houston!
We are today introducing a page where you can go and calculate Real Player Ratings for as many players and teams that you wish and that you have the correct information for. Getting the correct information for the NBA is very easy, you can get it from any of numerous sites. ESPN and basketball-reference.com are especially good sources.
And you can of course use the Tool to calculate ratings for college and high school players and games, as long as you have all of the correct scorekeeper (box score) numbers.
See the User Guide on the Toolbox Page if you want a customized version, because you believe that you have a rating system in mind that better reflects how basketball games are won. But before you do that, though, keep in mind that our system is being continually tweaked, so that it moves closer and closer to being a perfect reflection of how basketball games are won and lost.
The new Site Page is called The Quest for the Ring Toolbox. Aside from the tool itself, quick instructions and a complete User Guide for the tool is right there on that page.
It is expected that more tools will eventually be developed and made available on that page.
Arguably even more exciting than this, we are now developing, using the same database technology that brought Toolbox to life, a big upgrade for our reporting of Real Player Ratings and Real Team Ratings for the NBA. We don't yet know how much of an improvement we will see in the updating capability, but we already know that the presentation will, going forward, be more on a par with the very best Corporate and advanced statistics sites.
The only known big shortcoming of the Real Player Rating system is that we have lacked the ability to report out accurate, fully adjusted ratings on a real time basis. At the present moment, our capability is limited to two NBA-wide reports, one at about the end of February, and one after the season is over, scheduled for July.
But now, with any luck at all, we will expand, probably greatly, our ability to provide close to real time reporting of the Ratings for all NBA players on all teams. For example, we might be able to achieve weekly updating of the Ratings. Monthly would seem to be all but assured.
However, Real Player Ratings adjusted for hidden defending, which are the only kind we will support now (we're spoiled, laugh out loud) can not be done until the end of January at the earliest, due to the need for large samples of minutes to be able to adjust for hidden defending. But from about February 1 on, we will most likely achieve something between monthly and weekly reporting of Real Player Ratings for the NBA.
Also, we will most likely be able to provide one or more Real Player Ratings Reports for the NBA playoffs, something which was not even on the agenda until now!
The Toolbox Page is here. The User Guide for it is right on that page.
Unedited, Raw Game Notes are Here
You Can Post Your Response to Anything on Quest Here
Choose and click on a report and your tab will reload with that report showing about 1/10 the way down the page, below the two title listing panels just below here.
There are actually many more ways to choose and read Reports. For a complete description of all options, see this User Guide article.
There are actually many more ways to choose and read Reports. For a complete description of all options, see this User Guide article.
REPORTS #1 TO #20, GOING BACK IN TIME
REPORTS #21 TO #40, GOING BACK IN TIME
Friday, May 29, 2009
Monday, May 25, 2009
West Finals Game 1: Lakers 105 Nuggets 103 on May 19 2009 Ultimate Game Breakdown
2009 NBA PLAYOFFS
WEST CONFERENCE FINAL GAME 1
LOS ANGELES MAY 19
REAL GAME RATINGS
For all measures below, the first number is Denver Nuggets and the second is Los Angeles Lakers
Possessions 95.45 96.59
POINTS SCORED 103 105
EFFICIENCY: Most Important Single Measure 1.079 1.087
Offensive Rebound Percentage 0.194 0.362
Turnover Percentage 0.157 0.155
Getting to the Line 0.473 0.267
Effective Field Goal Percentage 0.541 0.472
Assists/Turnovers 1.600 1.667
ORIGINAL QUEST FOR THE RING MEASURES: SEE USER GUIDE FOR EXPLANATIONS
Playmaking Identity 1.125 0.800
Playmaking Quality 0.608 0.378
Playmaking Power 0.973 0.630
EFFICIENCY SCALE
1.150 and More: Ultra Efficient
1.130 to 1.149: Extremely Efficient
1.110 to 1.129: Very Efficient
1.090 to 1.109: A Little Above Average Efficiency
1.070 to 1.089: Average Efficiency
1.050 to 1.069: A Little Below Average Efficiency
1.030 to 1.049: Very Inefficient
1.010 to 1.029: Extremely Inefficient
!.009 and Less: Ultra Inefficient
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2009 NBA PLAYOFFS
WEST CONFERENCE FINAL GAME 1
LOS ANGELES MAY 19
REAL PLAYER RATINGS BY TEAM
Shows Quality of Players
DENVER NUGGETS
Carmelo Anthony, SF 1.225
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.783
Chris Andersen, FC 0.708
Nene, C 0.595
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.582
Anthony Carter, PG 0.327
J.R. Smith, SG 0.200
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.193
Dahntay Jones, SG -0.159
LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Kobe Bryant, SG 1.076
Jordan Farmar, PG 0.761
Pau Gasol, FC 0.743
Lamar Odom, PF 0.718
Derek Fisher, PG 0.626
Andrew Bynum, C 0.625
Luke Walton, SF 0.454
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.286
Sasha Vujacic, SG 0.092
2009 NBA PLAYOFFS
WEST CONFERENCE FINAL GAME 1
LOS ANGELES MAY 19
REAL PLAYER RATINGS COMBINED
Shows Quality of Players
Carmelo Anthony, SF 1.225
Kobe Bryant, SG 1.076
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.783
Jordan Farmar, PG 0.761
Pau Gasol, FC 0.743
Lamar Odom, PF 0.718
Chris Andersen, FC 0.708
Derek Fisher, PG 0.626
Andrew Bynum, C 0.625
Nene, C 0.595
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.582
Luke Walton, SF 0.454
Anthony Carter, PG 0.327
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.286
J.R. Smith, SG 0.200
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.193
Sasha Vujacic, SG 0.092
Dahntay Jones, SG -0.159
SCALE FOR REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player? Is there Such a Thing? 1.000 and more
Historic Super Star 0.950 and more
Super Star 0.850 0.949
A Star Player; An Extremely Good Starter 0.775 0.849
An Outstanding Player; A Solid Starter 0.700 0.774
Major Role Player 0.650 0.699
Role Player 0.600 0.649
Minor Role Player 0.550 0.599
Very Minor Role Player 0.500 0.549
Poor Player at This Time 0.425 0.499
Very Poor Player at This Time 0.350 0.424
Extremely Poor Player at This Time / Disaster and less 0.349
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2009 NBA PLAYOFFS
WEST CONFERENCE FINAL GAME 1
LOS ANGELES MAY 19
REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION BY TEAM
Shows Quantity of Players
DENVER NUGGETS
Carmelo Anthony, SF 49.00
Chauncey Billups, PG 32.10
Kenyon Martin, PF 22.70
Nene, C 19.05
Chris Andersen, FC 17.00
J.R. Smith, SG 5.00
Anthony Carter, PG 4.90
Linas Kleiza, SF 1.35
Dahntay Jones, SG -2.55
LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Kobe Bryant, SG 46.25
Pau Gasol, FC 31.20
Lamar Odom, PF 23.70
Derek Fisher, PG 19.40
Andrew Bynum, C 10.00
Trevor Ariza, SF 8.00
Jordan Farmar, PG 6.85
Luke Walton, SF 5.90
Sasha Vujacic, SG 1.20
2009 NBA PLAYOFFS
WEST CONFERENCE FINAL GAME 1
LOS ANGELES MAY 19
REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION COMBINED
Shows Quantity of Players
Carmelo Anthony, SF 49.00
Kobe Bryant, SG 46.25
Chauncey Billups, PG 32.10
Pau Gasol, FC 31.20
Lamar Odom, PF 23.70
Kenyon Martin, PF 22.70
Derek Fisher, PG 19.40
Nene, C 19.05
Chris Andersen, FC 17.00
Andrew Bynum, C 10.00
Trevor Ariza, SF 8.00
Jordan Farmar, PG 6.85
Luke Walton, SF 5.90
J.R. Smith, SG 5.00
Anthony Carter, PG 4.90
Linas Kleiza, SF 1.35
Sasha Vujacic, SG 1.20
Dahntay Jones, SG -2.55
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2009 NBA PLAYOFFS
WEST CONFERENCE FINAL GAME 1
LOS ANGELES MAY 19
OFFENSIVE SUB RATING COMBINED
Shows Offensive Quality of Players
Carmelo Anthony, SF 1.178
Kobe Bryant, SG 1.017
Jordan Farmar, PG 0.583
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.583
Derek Fisher, PG 0.574
Nene, C 0.495
Pau Gasol, FC 0.471
Luke Walton, SF 0.431
Andrew Bynum, C 0.406
Chris Andersen, FC 0.371
Lamar Odom, PF 0.352
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.241
J.R. Smith, SG 0.076
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.050
Sasha Vujacic, SG 0.046
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.007
Anthony Carter, PG -0.007
Dahntay Jones, SG -0.228
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WARNING: The following is NOT the defensive subratings reported for players for the season as a whole that are found in Real Player Ratings reports by team, and possibly in Real Player Ratings reports for the NBA as a whole. Those subratings require a minimum sample of 300 minutes of playing time to be valid. There is no known way to calculate the value of "hidden defending" for single games or for small numbers of games. No one on the internet has come even close to doing this, and it appears to be impossible.
Quest appears to be the only one that has created a statistically valid way of revealing hidden defending for larger numbers of games.
The following is scored or tracked defensive actions (defensive rebounds, steals, blocks, and personal fouls) per minute.
2009 NBA PLAYOFFS
WEST CONFERENCE FINAL GAME 1
LOS ANGELES MAY 19
SCORED OR TRACKED DEFENSIVE RATING
Shows quality of players for defensive rebounds, steals, blocks, minus personal fouls
Lamar Odom, PF 0.367
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.341
Chris Andersen, FC 0.338
Anthony Carter, PG 0.333
Pau Gasol, FC 0.271
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.236
Andrew Bynum, C 0.219
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.200
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.186
Jordan Farmar, PG 0.178
J.R. Smith, SG 0.124
Nene, C 0.100
Dahntay Jones, SG 0.069
Kobe Bryant, SG 0.058
Derek Fisher, PG 0.052
Carmelo Anthony, SF 0.048
Sasha Vujacic, SG 0.046
Luke Walton, SF 0.023
==================================================
MORE IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT THIS GAME
TEXT REPORT ON THE GAME: Coming Soon
USER GUIDE FOR REAL GAME RATINGS
USER GUIDE FOR REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Unedited, Raw Game Notes are Here
You Can Post Your Response to Anything on Quest Here
WEST CONFERENCE FINAL GAME 1
LOS ANGELES MAY 19
REAL GAME RATINGS
For all measures below, the first number is Denver Nuggets and the second is Los Angeles Lakers
Possessions 95.45 96.59
POINTS SCORED 103 105
EFFICIENCY: Most Important Single Measure 1.079 1.087
Offensive Rebound Percentage 0.194 0.362
Turnover Percentage 0.157 0.155
Getting to the Line 0.473 0.267
Effective Field Goal Percentage 0.541 0.472
Assists/Turnovers 1.600 1.667
ORIGINAL QUEST FOR THE RING MEASURES: SEE USER GUIDE FOR EXPLANATIONS
Playmaking Identity 1.125 0.800
Playmaking Quality 0.608 0.378
Playmaking Power 0.973 0.630
EFFICIENCY SCALE
1.150 and More: Ultra Efficient
1.130 to 1.149: Extremely Efficient
1.110 to 1.129: Very Efficient
1.090 to 1.109: A Little Above Average Efficiency
1.070 to 1.089: Average Efficiency
1.050 to 1.069: A Little Below Average Efficiency
1.030 to 1.049: Very Inefficient
1.010 to 1.029: Extremely Inefficient
!.009 and Less: Ultra Inefficient
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2009 NBA PLAYOFFS
WEST CONFERENCE FINAL GAME 1
LOS ANGELES MAY 19
REAL PLAYER RATINGS BY TEAM
Shows Quality of Players
DENVER NUGGETS
Carmelo Anthony, SF 1.225
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.783
Chris Andersen, FC 0.708
Nene, C 0.595
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.582
Anthony Carter, PG 0.327
J.R. Smith, SG 0.200
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.193
Dahntay Jones, SG -0.159
LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Kobe Bryant, SG 1.076
Jordan Farmar, PG 0.761
Pau Gasol, FC 0.743
Lamar Odom, PF 0.718
Derek Fisher, PG 0.626
Andrew Bynum, C 0.625
Luke Walton, SF 0.454
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.286
Sasha Vujacic, SG 0.092
2009 NBA PLAYOFFS
WEST CONFERENCE FINAL GAME 1
LOS ANGELES MAY 19
REAL PLAYER RATINGS COMBINED
Shows Quality of Players
Carmelo Anthony, SF 1.225
Kobe Bryant, SG 1.076
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.783
Jordan Farmar, PG 0.761
Pau Gasol, FC 0.743
Lamar Odom, PF 0.718
Chris Andersen, FC 0.708
Derek Fisher, PG 0.626
Andrew Bynum, C 0.625
Nene, C 0.595
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.582
Luke Walton, SF 0.454
Anthony Carter, PG 0.327
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.286
J.R. Smith, SG 0.200
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.193
Sasha Vujacic, SG 0.092
Dahntay Jones, SG -0.159
SCALE FOR REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect Player? Is there Such a Thing? 1.000 and more
Historic Super Star 0.950 and more
Super Star 0.850 0.949
A Star Player; An Extremely Good Starter 0.775 0.849
An Outstanding Player; A Solid Starter 0.700 0.774
Major Role Player 0.650 0.699
Role Player 0.600 0.649
Minor Role Player 0.550 0.599
Very Minor Role Player 0.500 0.549
Poor Player at This Time 0.425 0.499
Very Poor Player at This Time 0.350 0.424
Extremely Poor Player at This Time / Disaster and less 0.349
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2009 NBA PLAYOFFS
WEST CONFERENCE FINAL GAME 1
LOS ANGELES MAY 19
REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION BY TEAM
Shows Quantity of Players
DENVER NUGGETS
Carmelo Anthony, SF 49.00
Chauncey Billups, PG 32.10
Kenyon Martin, PF 22.70
Nene, C 19.05
Chris Andersen, FC 17.00
J.R. Smith, SG 5.00
Anthony Carter, PG 4.90
Linas Kleiza, SF 1.35
Dahntay Jones, SG -2.55
LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Kobe Bryant, SG 46.25
Pau Gasol, FC 31.20
Lamar Odom, PF 23.70
Derek Fisher, PG 19.40
Andrew Bynum, C 10.00
Trevor Ariza, SF 8.00
Jordan Farmar, PG 6.85
Luke Walton, SF 5.90
Sasha Vujacic, SG 1.20
2009 NBA PLAYOFFS
WEST CONFERENCE FINAL GAME 1
LOS ANGELES MAY 19
REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION COMBINED
Shows Quantity of Players
Carmelo Anthony, SF 49.00
Kobe Bryant, SG 46.25
Chauncey Billups, PG 32.10
Pau Gasol, FC 31.20
Lamar Odom, PF 23.70
Kenyon Martin, PF 22.70
Derek Fisher, PG 19.40
Nene, C 19.05
Chris Andersen, FC 17.00
Andrew Bynum, C 10.00
Trevor Ariza, SF 8.00
Jordan Farmar, PG 6.85
Luke Walton, SF 5.90
J.R. Smith, SG 5.00
Anthony Carter, PG 4.90
Linas Kleiza, SF 1.35
Sasha Vujacic, SG 1.20
Dahntay Jones, SG -2.55
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2009 NBA PLAYOFFS
WEST CONFERENCE FINAL GAME 1
LOS ANGELES MAY 19
OFFENSIVE SUB RATING COMBINED
Shows Offensive Quality of Players
Carmelo Anthony, SF 1.178
Kobe Bryant, SG 1.017
Jordan Farmar, PG 0.583
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.583
Derek Fisher, PG 0.574
Nene, C 0.495
Pau Gasol, FC 0.471
Luke Walton, SF 0.431
Andrew Bynum, C 0.406
Chris Andersen, FC 0.371
Lamar Odom, PF 0.352
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.241
J.R. Smith, SG 0.076
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.050
Sasha Vujacic, SG 0.046
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.007
Anthony Carter, PG -0.007
Dahntay Jones, SG -0.228
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WARNING: The following is NOT the defensive subratings reported for players for the season as a whole that are found in Real Player Ratings reports by team, and possibly in Real Player Ratings reports for the NBA as a whole. Those subratings require a minimum sample of 300 minutes of playing time to be valid. There is no known way to calculate the value of "hidden defending" for single games or for small numbers of games. No one on the internet has come even close to doing this, and it appears to be impossible.
Quest appears to be the only one that has created a statistically valid way of revealing hidden defending for larger numbers of games.
The following is scored or tracked defensive actions (defensive rebounds, steals, blocks, and personal fouls) per minute.
2009 NBA PLAYOFFS
WEST CONFERENCE FINAL GAME 1
LOS ANGELES MAY 19
SCORED OR TRACKED DEFENSIVE RATING
Shows quality of players for defensive rebounds, steals, blocks, minus personal fouls
Lamar Odom, PF 0.367
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.341
Chris Andersen, FC 0.338
Anthony Carter, PG 0.333
Pau Gasol, FC 0.271
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.236
Andrew Bynum, C 0.219
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.200
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.186
Jordan Farmar, PG 0.178
J.R. Smith, SG 0.124
Nene, C 0.100
Dahntay Jones, SG 0.069
Kobe Bryant, SG 0.058
Derek Fisher, PG 0.052
Carmelo Anthony, SF 0.048
Sasha Vujacic, SG 0.046
Luke Walton, SF 0.023
==================================================
MORE IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT THIS GAME
TEXT REPORT ON THE GAME: Coming Soon
USER GUIDE FOR REAL GAME RATINGS
USER GUIDE FOR REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Unedited, Raw Game Notes are Here
You Can Post Your Response to Anything on Quest Here
Introducing Real Game Ratings
Although the main place for User Guides for Quest performance measure reports is the Quest Reference page, we usually post new User Guide content here on the home page as well, especially if we are introducing something brand new.
Quest is proud to introduce something brand new and especially important in our mission to become a unique and extremely valuable basketball site and enterprise, one that is seeking to explain exactly how basketball games are won and lost.
Up until now, Ultimate Game Breakdowns have (a) been produced mostly for regular season games and (b) consisted mostly of Real Player Rating breakdowns. From now on, Ultimate Game Breakdowns (a) will be produced mostly for NBA playoff games and (b) will consist of Real Player Rating breakdowns AND the new Real Game Ratings breakdowns.
We are sure that after you review the following User Guide for the Real Game Ratings, that you will agree that this is another huge improvement, and that we are closing in on the best possible system (or set of tools) to explain how basketball games are won and lost that you could possibly have.
So now we will present the new User Guide, which of course is also permanently accessible at the Quest Reference Page.
USER GUIDE FOR REAL GAME RATINGS OF ULTIMATE GAME BREAKDOWNS
Real Game Ratings will be a set of team performance measures in games that, quite simply, allow the user to be at a higher level of knowledge and appreciation about basketball than those who are limited to traditional box scores and statistics.
Some of these ratings have been developed by statistical gurus over the last 20 years or so. Some of them have been developed by Quest and have never been seen before. Although these measures are not rocket science, Quest is indebted to "those who have gone before" in developing sophisticated ways of looking at basketball games and players.
Definitely for Quest and hopefully for most of the statistical experts who have blazed the trail, the objective has to be to reveal how basketball games are won.
ADVANCED MEASURES FOR TEAMS IN GAMES
POSSESSIONS
The number of possessions is the foundation needed for several extremely important performance measures. Several statistical gurus have developed formulas for calculating the number of possessions a team had using box score numbers. The results of these formulas are extremely similar. Quest uses the following formula. Though relatively simple, it yields almost exactly the same number of possessions as do more complicated formulas.
Possessions = Field Goals Attempted + Turnovers + (.44 * Free Throws Attempted) - Offensive Rebounds
EFFICIENCY
Efficiency is the single most important "advanced" performance measure. Anytime you are in a hurry, you can simply look at efficiency to evaluate how well a team played either on offense or defense. Efficiency is:
Efficiency: Points / Possessions
Quest has already been reporting team offensive and defensive efficiency separately and as part of the Real Team Ratings. We will now be including this crucial measure in Ultimate Game Breakdowns, which as explained in the 2009 Site News Update in the User Guide will be mostly for playoff games in the future. In other words, Quest will become virtually the only source on the Internet for team offensive and team defensive efficiency in NBA playoff games.
OFFENSIVE REBOUND PERCENTAGE
Most everyone knows that offensive rebounding is very important toward winning games, especially close games. On the other hand, offensive rebounding is less important for the task of looking at a basketball offense in isolation and evaluating how good it is, and how good the guards are in that offense.
Quest will report this in the Ultimate Game Breakdowns for NBA playoff games. We will be virtually the only known source for this information. The formula is:
Offensive Rebound Percentage = Offensive Rebounds / (Offensive Rebounds + Opponent's Defensive Rebounds)
As you can see, this tells you how many of all of the available rebounds were snagged by the offensive squad.
TURNOVER PERCENTAGE
Turnovers are very, very important in determining which team wins the game, especially in close games. Turnovers are interwoven into the only at Quest offensive quality and power measures.
Quest will report this in the Ultimate Game Breakdowns for NBA playoff games We will be virtually the only known source for this information. The formula is:
Turnover Percentage = Turnovers / Possessions
GETTING TO THE LINE
When a team is playing a good defending team, a rough defending team such as the 2009 Denver Nuggets, and/or a team with very tall centers and power forwards, there is a tendency to settle for more outside jump shots than is wise. Basketball players are human, and given the choice between scoring without taking abuse in the paint and scoring with abuse, they will choose the former.
While it is not true that you can win games simply by excessively over weighting driving into the paint in hopes of dunks, layups, and fouls, it is true that you have to maintain some kind of balance between so doing and between shooting from outside the paint. The main reason the balance is important is that it is much more difficult to defend a team that mixes up well drives in the paint with outside shooting.
One complication involved in determining how much a team should take it to the rim is how closely the referees are calling a game. If the referees are not calling the game loosely, if in other words the refs are "letting them play," then defenders have an unusual advantage in the paint, and the offense will be penalized if it drives into the paint too much. If the referees are calling a game tightly, than the offense in many cases will have the advantage in the paint, so obviously the coach should have the offense drive into the paint much more in that case. Keep in mind though that the referees may change how tightly they are calling the game as the game goes along.
Aside from the factor discussed in the previous paragraph, other factors that determine exactly what the balance should be between drives into the paint and outside shots is relatively complicated, and is beyond the scope of this User Guide. But this very, very important subject will be the subject of future Quest reports.
Quest will report the extent to which each team "got to the line" in Ultimate Game Breakdowns for NBA playoff games. We will be virtually the only known source for this information. The measure will be called Getting to the Line:
Getting to the Line = Free Throws Attempted / Field Goals Attempted
As you can see, this is the ratio of free throws to field goals attempted.
EFFECTIVE FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE
This is simply a juiced up version of shooting accuracy. Basic shooting accuracy, as reported in box scores as field goals made / field goals attempted, is not a very good measure, because two-point and three-point scores are combined in together as if they are the same thing. Effective field goal percentage adjusts basic shooting percentage so that it reflects the extra value of 3-point scores. So this is where the crucial 3-point shooters are given credit for their contributions toward winning the game.
Obviously, this is one of the most important measures for deciding who wins basketball games, and at the player level, for determining who the most valuable offensive players really are. Defensive Effective Field Goal Percentage is just as important for evaluating team defense as is the flip side.
Effective field goal percentage is a crucial part of efficiency which, as explained above, is the most crucial measure of all for determining who is going to win the basketball game.
Quest will be reporting the Effective Field Goal Percentage for teams in Ultimate Game Breakdowns for NBA playoff games. We will be virtually the only known source for this information. The formula is:
Effective Field Goal Percentage = (Field Goals Made + (0.5 * 3-Point Field Goals Made)) / Field Goals Attempted
ASSIST / TURNOVER RATIO
This is number of assists divided by number of turnovers. Point guards have surprisingly different turnover rates. The ones with the lowest turnover rates are obviously the best for efficiency per se, but for overall effectiveness, you need to look at this ratio. A high turnover point guard can nevertheless be a very good point guard if he makes a truly large number of assists. In general, for every turnover a point guard suffers, the more assists he needs to make up for it.
EVALUATION SCALE FOR ASSIST / TURNOVER RATIO
4.00 and More: Ultra Careful Point Guard, arguably too careful
3.50 to 3.99: Extremely Careful Point Guard, possibly too careful
3.00 to 3.49: Very Careful Point Guard
2.60 to 2.99: Careful Point Guard
2.20 to 2.59: Medium Point Guard
1.90 to 2.19: Slightly Careless Point Guard
1.60 to 1.89: Careless Point Guard
1.40 to 1.59: Very Careless Point Guard
1.20 to 1.39: Extremely Careless Point Guard
1.19 and Less: Ultra Careless Point Guard
Unfortunately, it seems that the assist / turnover ratio by itself is not extremely useful for either evaluating point guards or even at the team level for determining how good an offense really is. The problem seems to be that some point guards "need" more turnovers to produce a lot of assists than do others. Some not very careful point guards can more than make up for turnovers by making assists that are more impressive and important than the assists made by careful point guards.
On the other hand, very careless and worse point guards are not going to be able to fully make up for all their turnovers no matter what they do. Assist / turnover ratios below 1.60 would signal point guards who are simply making too many turnovers to have any chance of being truly effective playmakers. Keep in mind though that young point guards will often have higher or much higher ratios than they will have later on.
So although by itself the ratio is not a greatly important thing, when used in conjunction with other offensive indicators, as Quest does, the assist/turnover ratio becomes much more useful.
Quest will be reporting the Assists/Turnovers ratio for NBA playoff games and for a limited number of regular season games. This will be one of the only sources for this, although of course it is easy to make a rough calculation of this in your head simply by looking at a box score.
QUEST FOR THE RING ORIGINAL SYSTEM FOR RATING THE QUALITY AND POWER OF BASKETBALL OFFENSES
Quest as of June 2009 is officially introducing high level performance measures found no where else on the Internet. Most of these are focused on the offense. But obviously, if you look at how an opponent did in these things, you can evaluate a defense using them. Very intelligent basketball fans, offensive basketball coaches, shooting guards, and especially point guards will be able to make the most use of these new measures.
PLAYMAKING IDENTITY
The Quest discussed during many reports in the first 18 months of the site a concept called "playmaking identity". This is basically to what extent a team's offense is organized for maximum effectiveness. The more a team's offense is directed by the guards in general and especially by the point guards, the more effective it will be. Here are some of the reasons for that:
1. Point Guards bring up the ball. For that and for traditional reasons, point guards are supposed to be able to direct, or in other words to organize the offense to some extent. In theory, the more organized the offense, the more effective it will be, mainly because the more organized it is, the more the plays are repetitive, and the more repetitive and practiced the plays, the easier it is to score.
2. Guards in general and especially point guards are directly responsible for running specific plays called by coaches, both plays in general for every game, and specific plays called in specific situations, especially off time outs and in critical late game situations.
3. Point Guards are supposed to be able to read defenses and to be able to evaluate how well defenders are playing in a particular game. They are supposed to be able to use this knowledge to adjust their offense so as to avoid the good defending and attack the bad defending.
Quest is now formalizing the concept. The definition of playmaking identity will be:
Playmaking Identity = ((2 * Point Guard Assists) + Shooting Guard Assists) / Total Assists
As you can see, this is an adjusted version of percentage of assists by guards. It's adjusted because the point guard assists are double weighted while the shooting guard assists are single weighted. In terms of ultimately rating how good the offense is, point guard assists are the most important, shooting guard assists are of medium importance, and assists by forwards and centers are less important.
Assists by forwards and centers are left out of playmaking identity, which is part of the main point of this new measure, because assists by them, while better than no assists at all, are not very reflective of a quality, organized, and efficient offense.
On the other hand, total assists and the assist/turnover ratio, which would include assists by forwards and centers, are very important, as you will see shortly.
Quest for the Ring will be reporting Playmaking Identity for most NBA playoff games and for carefully selected regular season games. This measure has been created here and will definitely be available only here.
PLAYMAKING QUALITY
Playmaking Quality is an extremely important measure developed by Quest. Not only has this particular measure never been seen before, there has never been a measure that gets at how "good" an offense really is as well as this one does.
The idea, like many of the most useful ideas, is relatively simple actually. The theory is that the two most important things in a basketball offense is how well organized it is, as reflected by Playmaking Identity, and how well it scores, as measured by Effective Field Goal Percentage. So the formula is:
Playmaking Quality = Playmaking Identity * Effective Field Goal Percentage
A way to look at this is that it is effective or real shooting adjusted by to what extent the shooting was organized or not. In theory, the more organized the shooting, the more inevitable it was in the game (and the less by chance it was). So this would be an indicator that you can get from every game as to how good the team's offense really is.
The higher the Playmaking Quality as measured by more and more games, the more wins from offense you can expect for that team over the course of a season. Also, the higher the Playmaking Quality, the lessor the chance that even very good defending opposing teams can win with defense alone.
Quest believes that Playmaking Quality may prove to have one of the most high correlations with winning playoff games and Championships of all measures in existence. Why? For one thing, and to reemphasize, Playmaking Quality measures the extent to which an offense is invulnerable to losing to a quality defense.
Quest for the Ring will be reporting Playmaking Quality for most NBA playoff games and for carefully selected regular season games. This measure has been created here and will definitely be available only here.
PLAYMAKING POWER
While Playmaking Quality alone may be enough to ultimately explain why NBA playoff games are won and lost, Quest is introducing another one that may possibly be slightly more important still: Playmaking Power. This is Playmaking Quality multiplied by the team Assists / Turnover ratio. The formula is:
Playmaking Power: Playmaking Quality * (Assists / Turnovers)
Think of this as the ultimate summary measure of the quality of the offense of a team, with everything including the kitchen sink thrown in. In general, we are taking the best offensive quality measure possible (Playmaking Quality) and multiplying by the effective quantity of that offense, as shown by assists / turnovers. Gross quantity of the offense in this framework would be assists. Net or effective quantity would be assists / turnovers, since the more turnovers there are, the less valuable the assists actually are.
Quest for the Ring will be reporting Playmaking Power for most NBA playoff games and for carefully selected regular season games. This measure has been created here and will definitely be available only here.
PRODUCTION OUTLOOK
Ultimate Game Breakdowns for NBA playoff games and for a small number of regular season games will from now on consist of Real Player Ratings and of the Real Game Ratings, the latter as explained in this User Guide, and the former explained in a separate User Guide.
Unfortunately, we do not have the resources at this time to produce all of this for a substantial number of regular season games, let alone for all regular season games. We will at the least produce this for all NBA Championship games, for all Conference Finals games, and for all Conference semifinals games. To the extent possible, we will produce this for Conference quarterfinals, also known as the first round of the NBA playoffs.
Also due to limitations currently existing, Ultimate Game Breakdowns for NBA playoff games, as detailed, will not be available for days, weeks, or possibly even months following those games. We will, however, be able to make sure that all the Breakdowns for a given year's playoff games are completed at the latest by the end of the year in which those games were played. And we will do everything possible to get the Ultimate Game Breakdowns for the Championship out quickly.
If someday we can find qualified individuals to join the Quest Performance Measure Division (so to speak) then we will be able to do more Breakdowns and we will be able to get the Breakdowns done more quickly.
You Can Post Your Response to Anything on Quest Here
Quest is proud to introduce something brand new and especially important in our mission to become a unique and extremely valuable basketball site and enterprise, one that is seeking to explain exactly how basketball games are won and lost.
Up until now, Ultimate Game Breakdowns have (a) been produced mostly for regular season games and (b) consisted mostly of Real Player Rating breakdowns. From now on, Ultimate Game Breakdowns (a) will be produced mostly for NBA playoff games and (b) will consist of Real Player Rating breakdowns AND the new Real Game Ratings breakdowns.
We are sure that after you review the following User Guide for the Real Game Ratings, that you will agree that this is another huge improvement, and that we are closing in on the best possible system (or set of tools) to explain how basketball games are won and lost that you could possibly have.
So now we will present the new User Guide, which of course is also permanently accessible at the Quest Reference Page.
USER GUIDE FOR REAL GAME RATINGS OF ULTIMATE GAME BREAKDOWNS
Real Game Ratings will be a set of team performance measures in games that, quite simply, allow the user to be at a higher level of knowledge and appreciation about basketball than those who are limited to traditional box scores and statistics.
Some of these ratings have been developed by statistical gurus over the last 20 years or so. Some of them have been developed by Quest and have never been seen before. Although these measures are not rocket science, Quest is indebted to "those who have gone before" in developing sophisticated ways of looking at basketball games and players.
Definitely for Quest and hopefully for most of the statistical experts who have blazed the trail, the objective has to be to reveal how basketball games are won.
ADVANCED MEASURES FOR TEAMS IN GAMES
POSSESSIONS
The number of possessions is the foundation needed for several extremely important performance measures. Several statistical gurus have developed formulas for calculating the number of possessions a team had using box score numbers. The results of these formulas are extremely similar. Quest uses the following formula. Though relatively simple, it yields almost exactly the same number of possessions as do more complicated formulas.
Possessions = Field Goals Attempted + Turnovers + (.44 * Free Throws Attempted) - Offensive Rebounds
EFFICIENCY
Efficiency is the single most important "advanced" performance measure. Anytime you are in a hurry, you can simply look at efficiency to evaluate how well a team played either on offense or defense. Efficiency is:
Efficiency: Points / Possessions
Quest has already been reporting team offensive and defensive efficiency separately and as part of the Real Team Ratings. We will now be including this crucial measure in Ultimate Game Breakdowns, which as explained in the 2009 Site News Update in the User Guide will be mostly for playoff games in the future. In other words, Quest will become virtually the only source on the Internet for team offensive and team defensive efficiency in NBA playoff games.
OFFENSIVE REBOUND PERCENTAGE
Most everyone knows that offensive rebounding is very important toward winning games, especially close games. On the other hand, offensive rebounding is less important for the task of looking at a basketball offense in isolation and evaluating how good it is, and how good the guards are in that offense.
Quest will report this in the Ultimate Game Breakdowns for NBA playoff games. We will be virtually the only known source for this information. The formula is:
Offensive Rebound Percentage = Offensive Rebounds / (Offensive Rebounds + Opponent's Defensive Rebounds)
As you can see, this tells you how many of all of the available rebounds were snagged by the offensive squad.
TURNOVER PERCENTAGE
Turnovers are very, very important in determining which team wins the game, especially in close games. Turnovers are interwoven into the only at Quest offensive quality and power measures.
Quest will report this in the Ultimate Game Breakdowns for NBA playoff games We will be virtually the only known source for this information. The formula is:
Turnover Percentage = Turnovers / Possessions
GETTING TO THE LINE
When a team is playing a good defending team, a rough defending team such as the 2009 Denver Nuggets, and/or a team with very tall centers and power forwards, there is a tendency to settle for more outside jump shots than is wise. Basketball players are human, and given the choice between scoring without taking abuse in the paint and scoring with abuse, they will choose the former.
While it is not true that you can win games simply by excessively over weighting driving into the paint in hopes of dunks, layups, and fouls, it is true that you have to maintain some kind of balance between so doing and between shooting from outside the paint. The main reason the balance is important is that it is much more difficult to defend a team that mixes up well drives in the paint with outside shooting.
One complication involved in determining how much a team should take it to the rim is how closely the referees are calling a game. If the referees are not calling the game loosely, if in other words the refs are "letting them play," then defenders have an unusual advantage in the paint, and the offense will be penalized if it drives into the paint too much. If the referees are calling a game tightly, than the offense in many cases will have the advantage in the paint, so obviously the coach should have the offense drive into the paint much more in that case. Keep in mind though that the referees may change how tightly they are calling the game as the game goes along.
Aside from the factor discussed in the previous paragraph, other factors that determine exactly what the balance should be between drives into the paint and outside shots is relatively complicated, and is beyond the scope of this User Guide. But this very, very important subject will be the subject of future Quest reports.
Quest will report the extent to which each team "got to the line" in Ultimate Game Breakdowns for NBA playoff games. We will be virtually the only known source for this information. The measure will be called Getting to the Line:
Getting to the Line = Free Throws Attempted / Field Goals Attempted
As you can see, this is the ratio of free throws to field goals attempted.
EFFECTIVE FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE
This is simply a juiced up version of shooting accuracy. Basic shooting accuracy, as reported in box scores as field goals made / field goals attempted, is not a very good measure, because two-point and three-point scores are combined in together as if they are the same thing. Effective field goal percentage adjusts basic shooting percentage so that it reflects the extra value of 3-point scores. So this is where the crucial 3-point shooters are given credit for their contributions toward winning the game.
Obviously, this is one of the most important measures for deciding who wins basketball games, and at the player level, for determining who the most valuable offensive players really are. Defensive Effective Field Goal Percentage is just as important for evaluating team defense as is the flip side.
Effective field goal percentage is a crucial part of efficiency which, as explained above, is the most crucial measure of all for determining who is going to win the basketball game.
Quest will be reporting the Effective Field Goal Percentage for teams in Ultimate Game Breakdowns for NBA playoff games. We will be virtually the only known source for this information. The formula is:
Effective Field Goal Percentage = (Field Goals Made + (0.5 * 3-Point Field Goals Made)) / Field Goals Attempted
ASSIST / TURNOVER RATIO
This is number of assists divided by number of turnovers. Point guards have surprisingly different turnover rates. The ones with the lowest turnover rates are obviously the best for efficiency per se, but for overall effectiveness, you need to look at this ratio. A high turnover point guard can nevertheless be a very good point guard if he makes a truly large number of assists. In general, for every turnover a point guard suffers, the more assists he needs to make up for it.
EVALUATION SCALE FOR ASSIST / TURNOVER RATIO
4.00 and More: Ultra Careful Point Guard, arguably too careful
3.50 to 3.99: Extremely Careful Point Guard, possibly too careful
3.00 to 3.49: Very Careful Point Guard
2.60 to 2.99: Careful Point Guard
2.20 to 2.59: Medium Point Guard
1.90 to 2.19: Slightly Careless Point Guard
1.60 to 1.89: Careless Point Guard
1.40 to 1.59: Very Careless Point Guard
1.20 to 1.39: Extremely Careless Point Guard
1.19 and Less: Ultra Careless Point Guard
Unfortunately, it seems that the assist / turnover ratio by itself is not extremely useful for either evaluating point guards or even at the team level for determining how good an offense really is. The problem seems to be that some point guards "need" more turnovers to produce a lot of assists than do others. Some not very careful point guards can more than make up for turnovers by making assists that are more impressive and important than the assists made by careful point guards.
On the other hand, very careless and worse point guards are not going to be able to fully make up for all their turnovers no matter what they do. Assist / turnover ratios below 1.60 would signal point guards who are simply making too many turnovers to have any chance of being truly effective playmakers. Keep in mind though that young point guards will often have higher or much higher ratios than they will have later on.
So although by itself the ratio is not a greatly important thing, when used in conjunction with other offensive indicators, as Quest does, the assist/turnover ratio becomes much more useful.
Quest will be reporting the Assists/Turnovers ratio for NBA playoff games and for a limited number of regular season games. This will be one of the only sources for this, although of course it is easy to make a rough calculation of this in your head simply by looking at a box score.
QUEST FOR THE RING ORIGINAL SYSTEM FOR RATING THE QUALITY AND POWER OF BASKETBALL OFFENSES
Quest as of June 2009 is officially introducing high level performance measures found no where else on the Internet. Most of these are focused on the offense. But obviously, if you look at how an opponent did in these things, you can evaluate a defense using them. Very intelligent basketball fans, offensive basketball coaches, shooting guards, and especially point guards will be able to make the most use of these new measures.
PLAYMAKING IDENTITY
The Quest discussed during many reports in the first 18 months of the site a concept called "playmaking identity". This is basically to what extent a team's offense is organized for maximum effectiveness. The more a team's offense is directed by the guards in general and especially by the point guards, the more effective it will be. Here are some of the reasons for that:
1. Point Guards bring up the ball. For that and for traditional reasons, point guards are supposed to be able to direct, or in other words to organize the offense to some extent. In theory, the more organized the offense, the more effective it will be, mainly because the more organized it is, the more the plays are repetitive, and the more repetitive and practiced the plays, the easier it is to score.
2. Guards in general and especially point guards are directly responsible for running specific plays called by coaches, both plays in general for every game, and specific plays called in specific situations, especially off time outs and in critical late game situations.
3. Point Guards are supposed to be able to read defenses and to be able to evaluate how well defenders are playing in a particular game. They are supposed to be able to use this knowledge to adjust their offense so as to avoid the good defending and attack the bad defending.
Quest is now formalizing the concept. The definition of playmaking identity will be:
Playmaking Identity = ((2 * Point Guard Assists) + Shooting Guard Assists) / Total Assists
As you can see, this is an adjusted version of percentage of assists by guards. It's adjusted because the point guard assists are double weighted while the shooting guard assists are single weighted. In terms of ultimately rating how good the offense is, point guard assists are the most important, shooting guard assists are of medium importance, and assists by forwards and centers are less important.
Assists by forwards and centers are left out of playmaking identity, which is part of the main point of this new measure, because assists by them, while better than no assists at all, are not very reflective of a quality, organized, and efficient offense.
On the other hand, total assists and the assist/turnover ratio, which would include assists by forwards and centers, are very important, as you will see shortly.
Quest for the Ring will be reporting Playmaking Identity for most NBA playoff games and for carefully selected regular season games. This measure has been created here and will definitely be available only here.
PLAYMAKING QUALITY
Playmaking Quality is an extremely important measure developed by Quest. Not only has this particular measure never been seen before, there has never been a measure that gets at how "good" an offense really is as well as this one does.
The idea, like many of the most useful ideas, is relatively simple actually. The theory is that the two most important things in a basketball offense is how well organized it is, as reflected by Playmaking Identity, and how well it scores, as measured by Effective Field Goal Percentage. So the formula is:
Playmaking Quality = Playmaking Identity * Effective Field Goal Percentage
A way to look at this is that it is effective or real shooting adjusted by to what extent the shooting was organized or not. In theory, the more organized the shooting, the more inevitable it was in the game (and the less by chance it was). So this would be an indicator that you can get from every game as to how good the team's offense really is.
The higher the Playmaking Quality as measured by more and more games, the more wins from offense you can expect for that team over the course of a season. Also, the higher the Playmaking Quality, the lessor the chance that even very good defending opposing teams can win with defense alone.
Quest believes that Playmaking Quality may prove to have one of the most high correlations with winning playoff games and Championships of all measures in existence. Why? For one thing, and to reemphasize, Playmaking Quality measures the extent to which an offense is invulnerable to losing to a quality defense.
Quest for the Ring will be reporting Playmaking Quality for most NBA playoff games and for carefully selected regular season games. This measure has been created here and will definitely be available only here.
PLAYMAKING POWER
While Playmaking Quality alone may be enough to ultimately explain why NBA playoff games are won and lost, Quest is introducing another one that may possibly be slightly more important still: Playmaking Power. This is Playmaking Quality multiplied by the team Assists / Turnover ratio. The formula is:
Playmaking Power: Playmaking Quality * (Assists / Turnovers)
Think of this as the ultimate summary measure of the quality of the offense of a team, with everything including the kitchen sink thrown in. In general, we are taking the best offensive quality measure possible (Playmaking Quality) and multiplying by the effective quantity of that offense, as shown by assists / turnovers. Gross quantity of the offense in this framework would be assists. Net or effective quantity would be assists / turnovers, since the more turnovers there are, the less valuable the assists actually are.
Quest for the Ring will be reporting Playmaking Power for most NBA playoff games and for carefully selected regular season games. This measure has been created here and will definitely be available only here.
PRODUCTION OUTLOOK
Ultimate Game Breakdowns for NBA playoff games and for a small number of regular season games will from now on consist of Real Player Ratings and of the Real Game Ratings, the latter as explained in this User Guide, and the former explained in a separate User Guide.
Unfortunately, we do not have the resources at this time to produce all of this for a substantial number of regular season games, let alone for all regular season games. We will at the least produce this for all NBA Championship games, for all Conference Finals games, and for all Conference semifinals games. To the extent possible, we will produce this for Conference quarterfinals, also known as the first round of the NBA playoffs.
Also due to limitations currently existing, Ultimate Game Breakdowns for NBA playoff games, as detailed, will not be available for days, weeks, or possibly even months following those games. We will, however, be able to make sure that all the Breakdowns for a given year's playoff games are completed at the latest by the end of the year in which those games were played. And we will do everything possible to get the Ultimate Game Breakdowns for the Championship out quickly.
If someday we can find qualified individuals to join the Quest Performance Measure Division (so to speak) then we will be able to do more Breakdowns and we will be able to get the Breakdowns done more quickly.
You Can Post Your Response to Anything on Quest Here
Saturday, May 23, 2009
A Quick Fast Break Celebration: Kobe Bryant Holds the Line Against the Radical Nuggets in Denver, Lakers Win Game Three 103-97
POST GAME 3 CELEBRATION
In game 3 of the 2009 West Finals, Kobe Bryant, Trevor Ariza, Lamar Odom, and Pau Gasol, with some help from other Los Angeles Lakers, successfully defended basketball from the team attacking the sport, the Denver Nuggets. (See any of numerous recent reports for details of what the Nuggets have been up to, why it will eventually fail, and why it's bad for basketball.)
1,001 thank yous to Phil Jackson for staying the course and for not allowing Denver to change basketball into something it is not.
Shame on you George Karl; you should know better than this that you can not twist basketball into being a heavily or at least a substantially biased in favor of defense game. And nor of course can you turn it into being a violent sport in the football modality.
The Nuggets threw everything they had into the effort to change the sport, including superhuman efforts from Chris Andersen and Nene, but the Lakers and of course the referees held the line and defended the sport supremely well in game three.
The Nuggets threw every possible defensive action, ones in the rules and ones outside of the rules, in this radical experiment to try to win with defense only. They threw every foul, every push, every trip, every rough defend, every close defend, every block, every goal tend, every pass denial, every paint denial, every easy shot denial, and every easy score off fast breaks off defensive stops that they could come up with. But in the end, both Carmelo Anthony and Kenyon Martin were sitting on the bench fouled out of the game, Kobe Bryant was shooting free throws, and the Nuggets' radical all defense attack had fallen short to one of the greatest players of our day, a player who, unlike Allen Iverson, was meant to play both guard positions at once: Kobe Bryant.
It took them awhile, laugh out loud, but eventually the Lakers made enough free throws to win it.
Sorry Denver, but that is the way it is. You want to play with no offense to speak of? Then get out of the NBA and find another sport!
Thanks LA for getting this series back into the right Universe.
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[This is a fast break type of posting, a short post needed to be pushed out the door quickly to be timely. In the great majority of cases, a fast break posting is followed up by much longer articles, that will contain a lot of proof for any points made in the fast breaks. Remember that many Quest reports have much more detail than this one; Quest for the Ring prides itself on game, team, and League breakdowns that are as long as necessary to make and prove the points.]
Unedited, Raw Game Notes are Here
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In game 3 of the 2009 West Finals, Kobe Bryant, Trevor Ariza, Lamar Odom, and Pau Gasol, with some help from other Los Angeles Lakers, successfully defended basketball from the team attacking the sport, the Denver Nuggets. (See any of numerous recent reports for details of what the Nuggets have been up to, why it will eventually fail, and why it's bad for basketball.)
1,001 thank yous to Phil Jackson for staying the course and for not allowing Denver to change basketball into something it is not.
Shame on you George Karl; you should know better than this that you can not twist basketball into being a heavily or at least a substantially biased in favor of defense game. And nor of course can you turn it into being a violent sport in the football modality.
The Nuggets threw everything they had into the effort to change the sport, including superhuman efforts from Chris Andersen and Nene, but the Lakers and of course the referees held the line and defended the sport supremely well in game three.
The Nuggets threw every possible defensive action, ones in the rules and ones outside of the rules, in this radical experiment to try to win with defense only. They threw every foul, every push, every trip, every rough defend, every close defend, every block, every goal tend, every pass denial, every paint denial, every easy shot denial, and every easy score off fast breaks off defensive stops that they could come up with. But in the end, both Carmelo Anthony and Kenyon Martin were sitting on the bench fouled out of the game, Kobe Bryant was shooting free throws, and the Nuggets' radical all defense attack had fallen short to one of the greatest players of our day, a player who, unlike Allen Iverson, was meant to play both guard positions at once: Kobe Bryant.
It took them awhile, laugh out loud, but eventually the Lakers made enough free throws to win it.
Sorry Denver, but that is the way it is. You want to play with no offense to speak of? Then get out of the NBA and find another sport!
Thanks LA for getting this series back into the right Universe.
LATEST KOBE BRYANT VIDEOS
[This is a fast break type of posting, a short post needed to be pushed out the door quickly to be timely. In the great majority of cases, a fast break posting is followed up by much longer articles, that will contain a lot of proof for any points made in the fast breaks. Remember that many Quest reports have much more detail than this one; Quest for the Ring prides itself on game, team, and League breakdowns that are as long as necessary to make and prove the points.]
Unedited, Raw Game Notes are Here
You Can Post Your Response to Anything on Quest Here
Friday, May 22, 2009
Have we Arrived in the Alternate Universe?
I have bizarre dreams on occasion, and most of the time I can't remember them right after I wake up, let alone later in the day. But I do remember a dream I had last night, and not only that, I think it may have been one of those symbolic dreams that many psychologists claim exist.
The dream was that I was all of a sudden in a completely different place, and everything was strange and confusing. I was on a University campus managing some kind of store, maybe the gift shop. But I didn't know how I got there. So one of the "scenes" I remember from this dream was that I was on these steps to this big building, and I was stopped there talking with a group of two or three women. It was like one of those science fiction movies where the main character has been displaced and doesn't know it until he finds out to his horror that he has left his previous time and place.
So I was asking these women about what day and year it was, and the date was not much different. But then I asked them about where exactly I was. They told me I was at Virginia Tech, which as you may know was the scene of a terrible mass murder in I think it was April 2007. When they told me I was at Virginia Tech, I asked them "You mean I'm where the mass murder happened?" And then this woman looked at me strangely and told me she didn't know what I was talking about. Because she told me there had been no mass murder, no murders at all in fact.
So a little later in this dream, not long before I wake up, I realize that the reason I am confused is that I underestimated just how displaced I am. I realize I am actually in the "Alternate Universe," often referred to as the "Parallel Universe," the one which mirrors the Universe you or I are actually in, but can (at least according to science fiction) be different in some respects.
Why did I think of and tell you this story of this crazy dream? Because I am beginning to wonder whether the 2009 playoffs are taking place in the Alternate Universe rather than the Universe I am used to.
In the Original Universe the Nuggets were supposed to be lucky to win a few more than they lost this season, to be lucky to make the playoffs at all, and to be very lucky to win more than one or two playoff games before being bounced out. We know what is happening is a huge contrast to that.
In the Original Universe, everyone up to including the owner and managers of the Nuggets assumed there was a zero or almost zero percent chance that the Nuggets would still be alive as of this day. So the owner and/or the manager of the Nuggets and of the Pepsi Center where the Nuggets play booked a different event for Memorial Day 2009, having no idea that the Nuggets were still going to need a place to play as of that date.
It didn't turn out that way in the Parallel Universe, creating the hyped spectacle of wresting entertainment CEO Vince McMahon trying to pass himself off as more ethical than Nuggets' management.
Nuggets' management is grossly overrated these days and, reflecting the ultra wealthy owner, is shamelessly greedy and capitalist in the business sense. But they are not to my knowledge unethical or immoral within the context of the business world they operate in. So only in the Alternate Universe would Vince McMahon be able to claim that he is a better business person, and is more ethical, than the Nuggets' managers and Owner.
In the Original Universe, Carmelo Anthony was supposed to be following George Karl instructions, and as a result he was, by his standards, shooting poorly this year. There was little reason to suspect that Carmelo was going to be all that great in the playoffs. But in this Other Universe, to say Anthony is on fire would be an understatement.
In the Original Universe, Nene would not make it through the season due to some new fluke injury or health problem. But in this Alternate Universe, not only has he made it through, but he has also with lightning speed and laser-like concentration and determination exceeded expectations on the offensive end, an amazing .604 point blank range freight train shooter, far greater than in any prior year when, to remind you, he hardly played anyway.
In the Original Universe, Chris Andersen in the summer of 2008 was unemployed and was drawing little interest from League managers and scouts. So when he was picked up by Denver on the cheap after Marcus Camby was given away, the reasonable, logical assumption was that he was, at best, going to be a role player. But in this Other Universe, to call Andersen a role player is another stupid understatement; try something like "Role Player for the Ages."
In the Original Universe, Denver's defensive specialists would not be substantial offensive contributors. In this Alternative Universe, all of them, especially Anderson, and even including Dahntay Jones, became offensive contributors as the Nuggets generated a huge amount of fast break and in transition scoring from defensive stops of various kinds off of aggressive, high energy defending.
In the Original Universe, the Detroit Pistons were one of those franchises that holds on to the good on both ends of the court "glue" type players, whether or not they feel a rebuilding wind coming on. In the Alternative Universe, Pistons General Manager Joe Dumars seems more like the leader of the Gang That Can't Shoot Straight.
At the beginning of the 2008-09 season, Dumars trades Chauncey Billups for Allen Iverson. But then the Pistons join a growing list of teams unable to unravel what I call the Iverson Puzzle. Iverson is bounced around from point guard to 2-guard, and from starting to not starting. At least partly due to the continual experimenting, the Pistons start losing more and more, including a large number of home losses to medium and a few poor teams.
By March Iverson gets disgusted with the whole thing and decides to use his sore back as an excuse to quit playing for the Pistons. Meanwhile, Rasheed Wallace is apparently too old now, and Rodney Stuckey is too young to be a reliable point guard, and so between all of that the Pistons' season ends up in the dumpster.
And it may be some time before the Pistons are able to climb out of their dumpster dive. Good luck, Dumars, trying to dig out of the hole you just dug yourself. I don't think high quality players will be beating down your door to play for you any time soon.
So in summary, in this Crazy Theme Park type of Universe, at the franchise level, the Pistons (three rings) look like the Nuggets (zero rings) have generally looked over the years, whereas the Nuggets look a lot like the Pistons.
Assuming we are now actually in the Other Universe, what I want to know is: Who is responsible for getting us here? Because as you know, I'm always out to blame someone for anything bad and to credit someone for anything good.
Was it someone turning that spooky wheel on the LOST island? Was it Obama, thinking the only way we will get out of the depression is by booking over to the other Universe? Was it Vince McMahon. Was it Dahntay Jones, known for his beyond the rules actions?
Who knows; all I know is that although I have to learn that sports is far less predictable than economics and politics, the unpredictability of this year's NBA playoffs is bordering on intolerable. So if in fact we are not in the Correct Universe right now, I demand to be returned to it immediately.
You can stay in this weird one if you choose. I warn you though, choose your Universe wisely.
So what say you Phil Jackson?, who was yet another character who seemed to be in the Wrong Universe during Game two of the Lakers-Nuggets series, when he forgot to take Pau Gasol out for some badly needed rest, and when he drew up the asinine three attempt by the ice cold Derek Fisher for the attempt to send the game into overtime.
Phil, what do you say we book it back to the Old, Regular Universe? You have nine rings there, a really nice ranch in Montana, and a good chance to at least get into the Championship if not to win it. Whereas in this bizarro Universe, the Nuggets seem to have at least a 50/50 chance of stopping your chance of winning the Quest for the Ring for the 10th time.
Even if we have to make a stopover at the LOST island, or at George Karl's place, in order to get back to the Correct Universe, I'm down with that.
Just like I would hope and expect it to be the case with the Lakers right now, I am ready to do anything to get back home in good shape.
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The dream was that I was all of a sudden in a completely different place, and everything was strange and confusing. I was on a University campus managing some kind of store, maybe the gift shop. But I didn't know how I got there. So one of the "scenes" I remember from this dream was that I was on these steps to this big building, and I was stopped there talking with a group of two or three women. It was like one of those science fiction movies where the main character has been displaced and doesn't know it until he finds out to his horror that he has left his previous time and place.
So I was asking these women about what day and year it was, and the date was not much different. But then I asked them about where exactly I was. They told me I was at Virginia Tech, which as you may know was the scene of a terrible mass murder in I think it was April 2007. When they told me I was at Virginia Tech, I asked them "You mean I'm where the mass murder happened?" And then this woman looked at me strangely and told me she didn't know what I was talking about. Because she told me there had been no mass murder, no murders at all in fact.
So a little later in this dream, not long before I wake up, I realize that the reason I am confused is that I underestimated just how displaced I am. I realize I am actually in the "Alternate Universe," often referred to as the "Parallel Universe," the one which mirrors the Universe you or I are actually in, but can (at least according to science fiction) be different in some respects.
Why did I think of and tell you this story of this crazy dream? Because I am beginning to wonder whether the 2009 playoffs are taking place in the Alternate Universe rather than the Universe I am used to.
In the Original Universe the Nuggets were supposed to be lucky to win a few more than they lost this season, to be lucky to make the playoffs at all, and to be very lucky to win more than one or two playoff games before being bounced out. We know what is happening is a huge contrast to that.
In the Original Universe, everyone up to including the owner and managers of the Nuggets assumed there was a zero or almost zero percent chance that the Nuggets would still be alive as of this day. So the owner and/or the manager of the Nuggets and of the Pepsi Center where the Nuggets play booked a different event for Memorial Day 2009, having no idea that the Nuggets were still going to need a place to play as of that date.
It didn't turn out that way in the Parallel Universe, creating the hyped spectacle of wresting entertainment CEO Vince McMahon trying to pass himself off as more ethical than Nuggets' management.
Nuggets' management is grossly overrated these days and, reflecting the ultra wealthy owner, is shamelessly greedy and capitalist in the business sense. But they are not to my knowledge unethical or immoral within the context of the business world they operate in. So only in the Alternate Universe would Vince McMahon be able to claim that he is a better business person, and is more ethical, than the Nuggets' managers and Owner.
In the Original Universe, Carmelo Anthony was supposed to be following George Karl instructions, and as a result he was, by his standards, shooting poorly this year. There was little reason to suspect that Carmelo was going to be all that great in the playoffs. But in this Other Universe, to say Anthony is on fire would be an understatement.
In the Original Universe, Nene would not make it through the season due to some new fluke injury or health problem. But in this Alternate Universe, not only has he made it through, but he has also with lightning speed and laser-like concentration and determination exceeded expectations on the offensive end, an amazing .604 point blank range freight train shooter, far greater than in any prior year when, to remind you, he hardly played anyway.
In the Original Universe, Chris Andersen in the summer of 2008 was unemployed and was drawing little interest from League managers and scouts. So when he was picked up by Denver on the cheap after Marcus Camby was given away, the reasonable, logical assumption was that he was, at best, going to be a role player. But in this Other Universe, to call Andersen a role player is another stupid understatement; try something like "Role Player for the Ages."
In the Original Universe, Denver's defensive specialists would not be substantial offensive contributors. In this Alternative Universe, all of them, especially Anderson, and even including Dahntay Jones, became offensive contributors as the Nuggets generated a huge amount of fast break and in transition scoring from defensive stops of various kinds off of aggressive, high energy defending.
In the Original Universe, the Detroit Pistons were one of those franchises that holds on to the good on both ends of the court "glue" type players, whether or not they feel a rebuilding wind coming on. In the Alternative Universe, Pistons General Manager Joe Dumars seems more like the leader of the Gang That Can't Shoot Straight.
At the beginning of the 2008-09 season, Dumars trades Chauncey Billups for Allen Iverson. But then the Pistons join a growing list of teams unable to unravel what I call the Iverson Puzzle. Iverson is bounced around from point guard to 2-guard, and from starting to not starting. At least partly due to the continual experimenting, the Pistons start losing more and more, including a large number of home losses to medium and a few poor teams.
By March Iverson gets disgusted with the whole thing and decides to use his sore back as an excuse to quit playing for the Pistons. Meanwhile, Rasheed Wallace is apparently too old now, and Rodney Stuckey is too young to be a reliable point guard, and so between all of that the Pistons' season ends up in the dumpster.
And it may be some time before the Pistons are able to climb out of their dumpster dive. Good luck, Dumars, trying to dig out of the hole you just dug yourself. I don't think high quality players will be beating down your door to play for you any time soon.
So in summary, in this Crazy Theme Park type of Universe, at the franchise level, the Pistons (three rings) look like the Nuggets (zero rings) have generally looked over the years, whereas the Nuggets look a lot like the Pistons.
Assuming we are now actually in the Other Universe, what I want to know is: Who is responsible for getting us here? Because as you know, I'm always out to blame someone for anything bad and to credit someone for anything good.
Was it someone turning that spooky wheel on the LOST island? Was it Obama, thinking the only way we will get out of the depression is by booking over to the other Universe? Was it Vince McMahon. Was it Dahntay Jones, known for his beyond the rules actions?
Who knows; all I know is that although I have to learn that sports is far less predictable than economics and politics, the unpredictability of this year's NBA playoffs is bordering on intolerable. So if in fact we are not in the Correct Universe right now, I demand to be returned to it immediately.
You can stay in this weird one if you choose. I warn you though, choose your Universe wisely.
So what say you Phil Jackson?, who was yet another character who seemed to be in the Wrong Universe during Game two of the Lakers-Nuggets series, when he forgot to take Pau Gasol out for some badly needed rest, and when he drew up the asinine three attempt by the ice cold Derek Fisher for the attempt to send the game into overtime.
Phil, what do you say we book it back to the Old, Regular Universe? You have nine rings there, a really nice ranch in Montana, and a good chance to at least get into the Championship if not to win it. Whereas in this bizarro Universe, the Nuggets seem to have at least a 50/50 chance of stopping your chance of winning the Quest for the Ring for the 10th time.
Even if we have to make a stopover at the LOST island, or at George Karl's place, in order to get back to the Correct Universe, I'm down with that.
Just like I would hope and expect it to be the case with the Lakers right now, I am ready to do anything to get back home in good shape.
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Carmelo Anthony and Kobe Bryant: The Latest and Most Popular Videos
For those who don't have the time to read reports, let me sum up in very quickly the "marginal factor" why the Nuggets are in this series with the Lakers. Were it not for this extra factor added to the foundation of a high energy and aggressive defense, the Nuggets would not be where they are.
Of course the marginal factor has to be an offensive one, because it is clear that the Nuggets are coached much more poorly on offense than on defense.
The extra factor is that Carmelo Anthony is back to being a power scorer again after dropping out during the regular season this year. Specifically, his shooting percentage is back up close to .500, which is one of the main requirements for being a successful power scorer. Moreover, for the first time ever, Anthony brings fairly good three point shooting to the playoffs.
Much more detail is in other reports.
Here we are going to check out the latest and the most popular videos for Carmelo Anthony and Kobe Bryant, the two power scorers involved in this series. How about you pick out some and watch some videos and you can be the judge of who is the better player and/or of who is going to advance to the Championship this year.
I personally don't know who is going to win anymore. Although Melo will not make 30 points every single game in this series, the Nuggets might still win a game when he does not score 30, due to their high energy and aggressive defense. Plus, if Melo makes 30 or more points in the clear majority of the games, 5 out of 7 of them for example, the Nuggets could obviously win the series just by winning those games.
CARMELO ANTHONY LATEST VIDEOS
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[This is a fast break type of posting, a short post needed to be pushed out the door quickly to be timely. In the great majority of cases, a fast break posting is followed up by much longer articles, that will contain a lot of proof for any points made in the fast breaks. Remember that many Quest reports have much more detail than this one; Quest for the Ring prides itself on game, team, and League breakdowns that are as long as necessary to make and prove the points.]
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Of course the marginal factor has to be an offensive one, because it is clear that the Nuggets are coached much more poorly on offense than on defense.
The extra factor is that Carmelo Anthony is back to being a power scorer again after dropping out during the regular season this year. Specifically, his shooting percentage is back up close to .500, which is one of the main requirements for being a successful power scorer. Moreover, for the first time ever, Anthony brings fairly good three point shooting to the playoffs.
Much more detail is in other reports.
Here we are going to check out the latest and the most popular videos for Carmelo Anthony and Kobe Bryant, the two power scorers involved in this series. How about you pick out some and watch some videos and you can be the judge of who is the better player and/or of who is going to advance to the Championship this year.
I personally don't know who is going to win anymore. Although Melo will not make 30 points every single game in this series, the Nuggets might still win a game when he does not score 30, due to their high energy and aggressive defense. Plus, if Melo makes 30 or more points in the clear majority of the games, 5 out of 7 of them for example, the Nuggets could obviously win the series just by winning those games.
CARMELO ANTHONY LATEST VIDEOS
KOBE BRYANT LATEST VIDEOS
CARMELO ANTHONY MOST POPULAR VIDEOS
KOBE BRYANT MOST POPULAR VIDEOS
[This is a fast break type of posting, a short post needed to be pushed out the door quickly to be timely. In the great majority of cases, a fast break posting is followed up by much longer articles, that will contain a lot of proof for any points made in the fast breaks. Remember that many Quest reports have much more detail than this one; Quest for the Ring prides itself on game, team, and League breakdowns that are as long as necessary to make and prove the points.]
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Thursday, May 21, 2009
Were You Fooled into Thinking That Carmelo Anthony is Dumb?
As gradually reported in several recent reports, Carmelo Anthony has been busting out of several boxes during this playoff season:
1. Prior to this year, he was a star or better in only one out of four playoff series, the 2007 Nuggets-Spurs series. This year, so far at least, he has broken out of that great regular seasons followed by miserable post seasons box.
2. Prior to this year, Carmelo Anthony was willing to defer too much to other offensive players, such as Allen Iverson last year. This year, tired of all the playoff flameouts of prior years, Anthony has decided he isn’t going to defer to anyone, that he is going to become the power scorer in the playoffs that he clearly was meant to be. He was not willing to play an equal or inferior role to Chauncey Billups or anyone else in this year in the playoffs.
3. Prior to this year, he was willing to believe in George Karl as an offensive Coach. That started to come to an end a year ago when against the Lakers Melo correctly concluded that the Nuggets quit in the playoffs and that George Karl was the most important reason for that quitting. At this point, it is clear he has realized that Karl is a very good defensive Coach but is not a very good offensive Coach, which is absolutely true.
Did Chauncey Billups explain this stuff to Carmelo Anthony? I couldn’t tell you, but I tend to doubt it.
So the Nuggets, with their aggressive, hard fouling, bulldog defense, and the classic, power scoring Carmelo Anthony snag game two in the 2009 West finals against the Lakers in Los Angeles, and go back to Denver still holding on to the title of America’s most amazing basketball team in years, probably many years. The Nuggets and the Lakers are tied one game each in their best of seven games series.
Completely raw and unedited but accurate game notes are here. Don't expect careful sentence structure or perfect spelling in that game commentary there.
Quest for the Ring has been learning some new things from this improbable run of the Nuggets, many of which have been reported recently. The latest thing we have learned is that if you know a player is smarter than he appears, just wait for a year or two and sooner or later he will surprise or maybe even shock you. Just like in non-sports situations, there are NBA players who “play dumb” for various reasons.
Carmelo Anthony has been enjoying an extended childhood and playing dumb for the past few years, for so long that I was more and more thinking that he might actually be dumb. But give me credit; I never actually concluded that he was dumb; I will never again waste any time in the future thinking he might be dumb.
You have been a sly, deceptive, and crafty one, Melo, lurking in the background, assuming or at least appearing to assume Karl knew what he is doing for too long and waiting to prove him and everyone else wrong when the time was just right to do so, when there was enough defense on your team, combined with your offense, to actually win playoff games, including one in Los Angeles no less. By doing it this dramatic way, you can make up for most of the stupid statements that have been made about you for many years in one foul swoop.
Melo is now in effect manipulating the media almost as well as Obama does.
The last few years have been like the ultimate pump fake: Carmelo Anthony pump faked out the entire sports world, laugh out loud.
SELFISH PLAYERS?
Rather often you see people refer to the concept of a “selfish” basketball player. For example, almost all of the Iverson haters refer to him as being a selfish player. One of the reasons I have been investigating the Iverson mess is that it was obvious to me from early on that this is a dubious concept.
Saying it is dubious is too generous actually. Learn this well kiddies: there is almost no such thing as a “selfish basketball player” in the NBA. (I would expect that it is more possible to have a selfish player at the high school level, but I can assure you that a selfish high school player is never going to get close to the NBA.) Remember for the future, every time you post on the internet that this or that NBA player is a selfish player, you are making a fool out of yourself.
As an aside, will all the highly paid TV announcers please stop using the word “chippy” to describe games with a lot of fouls, contact, and raised tempers? That word is goofy to say the least. But I digress.
Players who take a lot of shots don’t do so for the hell of it or because they are selfish. They meet numerous preconditions for doing so….
Players who take scoring seriously are invariably players who have better track records than other players at heavily scoring the ball. They have higher scoring percentages over the years. They have a greater versatility in how they can score. They have spent more time in the gym practicing shots than other players have. They have the skills to make a lot of shots, and just as importantly, different kinds of shots. They have in games an ability to maintain some degree of balance between different types of shooting. They have the mindset that they will take responsibility for losing a game if they don’t choose their shots well and/or if they miss too many shots.
There aren’t that many players in existence who meet all those qualifications, but they are extremely important for winning pro playoff games. While there are fools who call such players “selfish,” I call players such as this “power scorers”.
Any player who does not meet those qualifications will not game after game take too many shots. Players with even half a brain know that if they do that they will be more and more benched and eventually they will be out of the League. If a younger player is taking too many shots, the coach simply informs him that he is not qualified to take as many shots as he is taking, and I can guarantee you that the player will reduce his shooting after that.
As has been stated many times at Quest, it is much easier to win playoff games with a power scorer than without one. This could not be more obvious than this year, when now that Carmelo Anthony has thrown Karl’s theory that no one should heavily dominate scoring out the window and has joined the other three power scorers on the final four playoff teams of 2009:
1. Cleveland Cavaliers: LeBron James
2. Orlando Magic: Dwight Howard
3. Los Angeles Lakers: Kobe Bryant
4. Denver Nuggets: Carmelo Anthony
Wow, that is good company.
Carmelo Anthony has finally proved Karl was wrong about him when Karl claimed that Anthony would never be able to challenge for a Championship from the power scoring mode. I’ll be damned if he is not challenging for a Championship as a power scorer right here and now.
Last year Carmelo Anthony realized that Karl does not have all the answers for winning playoff games.
This year he decided to provide some of the answers himself.
So it turns out there is a little Che Guevara in Carmelo Anthony after all, a little bit of a rebel.
Now the next question is can Anthony continue to jab step the Lakers into the dust?
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1. Prior to this year, he was a star or better in only one out of four playoff series, the 2007 Nuggets-Spurs series. This year, so far at least, he has broken out of that great regular seasons followed by miserable post seasons box.
2. Prior to this year, Carmelo Anthony was willing to defer too much to other offensive players, such as Allen Iverson last year. This year, tired of all the playoff flameouts of prior years, Anthony has decided he isn’t going to defer to anyone, that he is going to become the power scorer in the playoffs that he clearly was meant to be. He was not willing to play an equal or inferior role to Chauncey Billups or anyone else in this year in the playoffs.
3. Prior to this year, he was willing to believe in George Karl as an offensive Coach. That started to come to an end a year ago when against the Lakers Melo correctly concluded that the Nuggets quit in the playoffs and that George Karl was the most important reason for that quitting. At this point, it is clear he has realized that Karl is a very good defensive Coach but is not a very good offensive Coach, which is absolutely true.
Did Chauncey Billups explain this stuff to Carmelo Anthony? I couldn’t tell you, but I tend to doubt it.
So the Nuggets, with their aggressive, hard fouling, bulldog defense, and the classic, power scoring Carmelo Anthony snag game two in the 2009 West finals against the Lakers in Los Angeles, and go back to Denver still holding on to the title of America’s most amazing basketball team in years, probably many years. The Nuggets and the Lakers are tied one game each in their best of seven games series.
Completely raw and unedited but accurate game notes are here. Don't expect careful sentence structure or perfect spelling in that game commentary there.
Quest for the Ring has been learning some new things from this improbable run of the Nuggets, many of which have been reported recently. The latest thing we have learned is that if you know a player is smarter than he appears, just wait for a year or two and sooner or later he will surprise or maybe even shock you. Just like in non-sports situations, there are NBA players who “play dumb” for various reasons.
Carmelo Anthony has been enjoying an extended childhood and playing dumb for the past few years, for so long that I was more and more thinking that he might actually be dumb. But give me credit; I never actually concluded that he was dumb; I will never again waste any time in the future thinking he might be dumb.
You have been a sly, deceptive, and crafty one, Melo, lurking in the background, assuming or at least appearing to assume Karl knew what he is doing for too long and waiting to prove him and everyone else wrong when the time was just right to do so, when there was enough defense on your team, combined with your offense, to actually win playoff games, including one in Los Angeles no less. By doing it this dramatic way, you can make up for most of the stupid statements that have been made about you for many years in one foul swoop.
Melo is now in effect manipulating the media almost as well as Obama does.
The last few years have been like the ultimate pump fake: Carmelo Anthony pump faked out the entire sports world, laugh out loud.
SELFISH PLAYERS?
Rather often you see people refer to the concept of a “selfish” basketball player. For example, almost all of the Iverson haters refer to him as being a selfish player. One of the reasons I have been investigating the Iverson mess is that it was obvious to me from early on that this is a dubious concept.
Saying it is dubious is too generous actually. Learn this well kiddies: there is almost no such thing as a “selfish basketball player” in the NBA. (I would expect that it is more possible to have a selfish player at the high school level, but I can assure you that a selfish high school player is never going to get close to the NBA.) Remember for the future, every time you post on the internet that this or that NBA player is a selfish player, you are making a fool out of yourself.
As an aside, will all the highly paid TV announcers please stop using the word “chippy” to describe games with a lot of fouls, contact, and raised tempers? That word is goofy to say the least. But I digress.
Players who take a lot of shots don’t do so for the hell of it or because they are selfish. They meet numerous preconditions for doing so….
Players who take scoring seriously are invariably players who have better track records than other players at heavily scoring the ball. They have higher scoring percentages over the years. They have a greater versatility in how they can score. They have spent more time in the gym practicing shots than other players have. They have the skills to make a lot of shots, and just as importantly, different kinds of shots. They have in games an ability to maintain some degree of balance between different types of shooting. They have the mindset that they will take responsibility for losing a game if they don’t choose their shots well and/or if they miss too many shots.
There aren’t that many players in existence who meet all those qualifications, but they are extremely important for winning pro playoff games. While there are fools who call such players “selfish,” I call players such as this “power scorers”.
Any player who does not meet those qualifications will not game after game take too many shots. Players with even half a brain know that if they do that they will be more and more benched and eventually they will be out of the League. If a younger player is taking too many shots, the coach simply informs him that he is not qualified to take as many shots as he is taking, and I can guarantee you that the player will reduce his shooting after that.
As has been stated many times at Quest, it is much easier to win playoff games with a power scorer than without one. This could not be more obvious than this year, when now that Carmelo Anthony has thrown Karl’s theory that no one should heavily dominate scoring out the window and has joined the other three power scorers on the final four playoff teams of 2009:
1. Cleveland Cavaliers: LeBron James
2. Orlando Magic: Dwight Howard
3. Los Angeles Lakers: Kobe Bryant
4. Denver Nuggets: Carmelo Anthony
Wow, that is good company.
Carmelo Anthony has finally proved Karl was wrong about him when Karl claimed that Anthony would never be able to challenge for a Championship from the power scoring mode. I’ll be damned if he is not challenging for a Championship as a power scorer right here and now.
Last year Carmelo Anthony realized that Karl does not have all the answers for winning playoff games.
This year he decided to provide some of the answers himself.
So it turns out there is a little Che Guevara in Carmelo Anthony after all, a little bit of a rebel.
Now the next question is can Anthony continue to jab step the Lakers into the dust?
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Tuesday, May 19, 2009
George Karl Mostly to Blame for Nuggets' Game One Loss to Lakers: Too Many Defensive Guards, Not Enough Trust in J.R. Smith
The Nuggets, as everyone knew they would, brought a blend of tough and rough defense and a fast and furious offense too to Game One of the West Final Series against the Lakers. Also appearing was the classic Carmelo Anthony, a power scoring and even power defending Carmelo Anthony.
But unfortunately, the more things change, the more they stay the same. While in the previous two seasons numerous huge Allen Iverson efforts ended up in a Nuggets loss, in this game it was a huge effort by Carmelo Anthony that ended up resulting in a loss rather than a win. The Nuggets lost 105-103 to the Lakers in game one in Los Angeles.
I will tell you the number one reason why the Nuggets lost this game to the Lakers, even though the Nuggets' defense held the Lakers offense to a miserable shooting percentage of 41.1%, while the Nuggets shot a very, very good 48.6%. The Nuggets should have won this game.
The number one reason the Nuggets lost it is among the sixteen reasons I thought back in January that would lead to the Nuggets not even winning a single playoff series: J.R. Smith has not been developed properly as a pro basketball player.
Not only does this relatively recent full report explain in detail why Karl failed with respect to J.R. Smith, but numerous references are made to this big problem in reports from 2007-08.
By the way, I thought that enough of the 16 factors would be in play and would cause Denver to fail to win a single playoff series, but what actually happened is that a smaller number of the 16 factors emerged than I expected. So the Nuggets were able to get by the walking wounded Hornets and the defensively challenged Mavericks. But the Lakers are another matter entirely.
But now back to the Smith situation:
Smith was trashed repeatedly in 2006-07 and in 2007-08 by Karl, in public no less, due to factors beyond Smith's control, namely, due to Smith's immaturity and impulsiveness.
Karl simply failed to see the potential in the very young player, and obviously wanted Smith to be traded. But Nuggets management did see the big upside potential, and they signed Smith to a mid-level contract in the summer of 2008.
But Karl has doggedly and seemingly vindictively persisted in refusing to make Smith a starter, even though Smith by early this season was no longer a defensive liability in any way, shape or form. If anything by early in 2008-09, Smith had become a defensive asset.
Well, if Karl does not like a guard in the mold of J.R. Smith, what kind of guard does Karl like? To get at this, let's see how the playing times for the guards other than starting point guard Chauncey Billups went in this game. This games' playing times, as you might expect, were reflective of what was typical throughout the season.
J.R. Smith (2-Guard) 25 minutes
Dahntay Jones (2-Guard) 16 minutes
Anthony Carter (Point Guard) 15 minutes
Linas Kleiza (Guard-Forward) 7 minutes
I hate to inform anyone who does not know, but of the above four players, there is only one who the Lakers would even consider having on their team and that one would be J.R. Smith. The other three they most likely would not want on their team at all, let alone starting. The reason is simple. For different reasons, the other three players are not full scale players offensively.
EARTH TO KARL:
It's time for some Earth to Karl transmissions:
Earth to Karl #1 Dahntay Jones will hardly be able to score much at all in this series against the Great Wall of Los Angeles: Gasol, Bynum, Odom, Ariza. And Kobe Bryant will not be slowed down by Jones anywhere near as much as was the young and slightly banged up Chris Paul. It just isn't going to happen on our planet.
You need someone else to guard Kobe Bryant, someone like J.R. Smith, for example, who can even when he is burned offset many of Bryant's scores with scores of his own. Or just keep Carmelo Anthony and Kenyon Martin on Kobe all night. Or try Renaldo Balkman; he's got 2 inches on Jones and he is more defensively skilled than Jones is when all is said and done.
Mr. Karl, you are going to get killed by Kobe and Company if you keep thinking that you can get away with having Dahntay Jones guard Kobe Bryant.
For more about George Karl's guard rotation errors this year, see this report.
Earth to Karl #2: Anthony Carter is too short against the Lakers, and you don't have an organized offense anyways, so why do you need him in there for more than 10 minutes a game to rest Chauncey Billups? You don't. Stop overplaying Anthony Carter.
But laugh out loud, I have been saying this for going on two years now, and Karl always insists on not only overplaying Carter, but on overplaying short, defensively oriented guards in general. There is only one thing worse than overplaying Dahntay Jones, and that is overplaying both Dahntay Jones and Anthony Carter in the same game.
Even worse still is having Carter and Billups, the backup and the starting point guards, in the game at the same time. In game one, this happened for almost half of the second quarter and for very close to 5 minutes of the 4th quarter. Wrong move, especially since it was Carter's lame inbound pass intended for, you guessed it, Chauncey Billups, that was picked off by Trevor Ariza, allowing the Lakers to take away Denver's last chance to win this game.
I mean, I couldn't dream this stuff up if I tried.
Earth to Karl #3: Kleiza was sort of an offensive asset last year, but this year, he fell off badly and should not be playing in this series. Period. At the very least, Balkman should be getting the minutes Kleiza is getting.
Earth to Karl #4: For the love of the man in the sky George Karl, if you could not bear to start J.R. Smith in this series (and long before it) why didn't you start Guard-Forward Renaldo Balkman? He is actually a better defender than is Dahntay Jones, and while not being a full scale pro offensive player, at least he is better than Jones offensively as well. He's very much like a younger and slightly less talented version of Chris Andersen.
KARL HAS UNDERESTIMATED BOTH SMITH AND THE GAME OF BASKETBALL
Sorry Mr. Karl, your inability to fully appreciate J.R. Smith and the offensive vision and weapons he brings on the court was what did you in in game 1. You have failed in your task to make Smith all that he can be; he needs to start to be all that he can be. Mr. Karl, you were destined to lose this game due to your conclusions and actions going back many, many months ago. And this Smith thing may very well do you in for the series.
Yes, this is a little thing compared to your offensive coaching shortcomings in general. But in a tight game in the Western Conference Finals, all it takes is a relatively little thing to lose a game you should have won.
To summarize mathematically, for the Nuggets to win, Smith needs to be playing 30-35 minutes a game, Balkman 10-15 minutes a game, Carter should be backing Billups, and Jones should be backing J.R. Smith. Carter and Billups should never ever be on the court at the same time.
Mr. Karl, your team needed J.R. Smith to start this game, to have the confidence of a starter, to have the 3-point shooting of a starter, and the courage to attack the Great Wall of Los Angeles of a starter. Bench players do not ever have much if any success taking it to the rack against the Great Wall of Los Angeles. You needed Smith to be in the flow with the other starters, to not be the odd man out at crunch time like he was.
Instead of a full scale, starting J.R. Smith at the end of the game, you had J.R. Smith standing there on the line with 3 seconds left and having to miss his second free throw on purpose so that the Nuggets might get lucky and be able to stuff in a tying bucket at the buzzer.
Instead, Kobe Bryant, another 2-guard like Smith, snagged Smith's intentional miss and heeved it down court as the last 3 seconds ran out.
Let's compare here:
Kobe Bryant, Lakers starter, 2-guard, Superstar and usually almost perfect, is fully trusted by his Coach even though he can be a little impulsive, headstrong, and immature. And even though he used to be much more so than now.
J.R. Smith: Nuggets reserve, 2-guard, definitely a Star and almost a Superstar, is NOT trusted all that much by his Coach because he can be impulsive, headstrong, and immature. And because he used to be much more so than now.
See the difference? See one reason that Phil Jackson is a better Coach than is George Karl?
Phil Jackson always respects offense, and he will make any player who can bring offense all that he can be. He will not stuff a player like J.R. Smith down a hole on the bench somewhere. Granted, the very risk-averse Lakers' managers would probably never "take a chance" with a very young and raw player such as Smith in the first place. But if they did have him, Phil Jackson would not stuff him down a rat hole on the bench.
Jackson does not mess around with trying to have someone win the Best 6th Man Award. He puts his best five players out there as starters, and he uses a large rotation, almost always 9 players and sometimes 10, with the 4-5 reserves being insurance policies for wins. The idea behind all these reserves as insurance is that you have four or even five wild card chances amongst your reservies to empower and enable a player who is "feeling it" in a particular game, and so is able to pump in 10-15 points in 10-20 minutes, and/or is able to make some brilliant stops.
Coaches: follow what Phil Jackson does! Trust me (or actually trust Phil, laugh out loud) you will win more games that way.
Another thing Mr. Karl does not understand besides the importance of offense in general is that 2-guards are supposed to be a little impulsive and headstrong and they are in most team situations supposed to be a little more concerned with offense than with defense. The position is called "shooting guard". Shooting as in what is done on offense. Get it?
Guards who are careful and thinking often and not usually instinctual and impulsive, are point guards, not shooting guards. You need both kinds of guards on your team to win the Quest.
An NBA coach, just like any coach, is supposed to make all of his players all that they can be. Sports is not about pigeonholing and red flagging players for personality characteristcs beyond their control and that have little impact on playing the game when all is said and done.
I will grant you that Karl has come a long way from two years ago, when Smith was not even allowed to play a dozen minutes a game in the Nuggets 4-1 first round loss to the Spurs. He wasn't allowed to play at all, in fact.
What a confidence booster and good development that was. Not.
Unfortunately, Mr. Karl has not come far enough with respect to J.R. Smith and, as a direct result, Smith has not come far enough and, as a direct result of that, the Nuggets lost game one of this series. One thing leads to another, you know.
More broadly, it seems at the moment that the Nuggets are going to lose this series. The number one reason will NOT be that defensive intensity and a lot of fouling is a hopeless strategy. (If that's the only way you can defend well, then you have no choice but to go for it.)
No, it seems that the Nuggets are going to lose the series because Karl and the Nuggets do not understand that basketball is NOT biased in favor of defense the way football is. Karl and the Nuggets do not understand that you can not have a substantial number of players out there who have very little role to play in the offense.
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But unfortunately, the more things change, the more they stay the same. While in the previous two seasons numerous huge Allen Iverson efforts ended up in a Nuggets loss, in this game it was a huge effort by Carmelo Anthony that ended up resulting in a loss rather than a win. The Nuggets lost 105-103 to the Lakers in game one in Los Angeles.
I will tell you the number one reason why the Nuggets lost this game to the Lakers, even though the Nuggets' defense held the Lakers offense to a miserable shooting percentage of 41.1%, while the Nuggets shot a very, very good 48.6%. The Nuggets should have won this game.
The number one reason the Nuggets lost it is among the sixteen reasons I thought back in January that would lead to the Nuggets not even winning a single playoff series: J.R. Smith has not been developed properly as a pro basketball player.
Not only does this relatively recent full report explain in detail why Karl failed with respect to J.R. Smith, but numerous references are made to this big problem in reports from 2007-08.
By the way, I thought that enough of the 16 factors would be in play and would cause Denver to fail to win a single playoff series, but what actually happened is that a smaller number of the 16 factors emerged than I expected. So the Nuggets were able to get by the walking wounded Hornets and the defensively challenged Mavericks. But the Lakers are another matter entirely.
But now back to the Smith situation:
Smith was trashed repeatedly in 2006-07 and in 2007-08 by Karl, in public no less, due to factors beyond Smith's control, namely, due to Smith's immaturity and impulsiveness.
Karl simply failed to see the potential in the very young player, and obviously wanted Smith to be traded. But Nuggets management did see the big upside potential, and they signed Smith to a mid-level contract in the summer of 2008.
But Karl has doggedly and seemingly vindictively persisted in refusing to make Smith a starter, even though Smith by early this season was no longer a defensive liability in any way, shape or form. If anything by early in 2008-09, Smith had become a defensive asset.
Well, if Karl does not like a guard in the mold of J.R. Smith, what kind of guard does Karl like? To get at this, let's see how the playing times for the guards other than starting point guard Chauncey Billups went in this game. This games' playing times, as you might expect, were reflective of what was typical throughout the season.
J.R. Smith (2-Guard) 25 minutes
Dahntay Jones (2-Guard) 16 minutes
Anthony Carter (Point Guard) 15 minutes
Linas Kleiza (Guard-Forward) 7 minutes
I hate to inform anyone who does not know, but of the above four players, there is only one who the Lakers would even consider having on their team and that one would be J.R. Smith. The other three they most likely would not want on their team at all, let alone starting. The reason is simple. For different reasons, the other three players are not full scale players offensively.
EARTH TO KARL:
It's time for some Earth to Karl transmissions:
Earth to Karl #1 Dahntay Jones will hardly be able to score much at all in this series against the Great Wall of Los Angeles: Gasol, Bynum, Odom, Ariza. And Kobe Bryant will not be slowed down by Jones anywhere near as much as was the young and slightly banged up Chris Paul. It just isn't going to happen on our planet.
You need someone else to guard Kobe Bryant, someone like J.R. Smith, for example, who can even when he is burned offset many of Bryant's scores with scores of his own. Or just keep Carmelo Anthony and Kenyon Martin on Kobe all night. Or try Renaldo Balkman; he's got 2 inches on Jones and he is more defensively skilled than Jones is when all is said and done.
Mr. Karl, you are going to get killed by Kobe and Company if you keep thinking that you can get away with having Dahntay Jones guard Kobe Bryant.
For more about George Karl's guard rotation errors this year, see this report.
Earth to Karl #2: Anthony Carter is too short against the Lakers, and you don't have an organized offense anyways, so why do you need him in there for more than 10 minutes a game to rest Chauncey Billups? You don't. Stop overplaying Anthony Carter.
But laugh out loud, I have been saying this for going on two years now, and Karl always insists on not only overplaying Carter, but on overplaying short, defensively oriented guards in general. There is only one thing worse than overplaying Dahntay Jones, and that is overplaying both Dahntay Jones and Anthony Carter in the same game.
Even worse still is having Carter and Billups, the backup and the starting point guards, in the game at the same time. In game one, this happened for almost half of the second quarter and for very close to 5 minutes of the 4th quarter. Wrong move, especially since it was Carter's lame inbound pass intended for, you guessed it, Chauncey Billups, that was picked off by Trevor Ariza, allowing the Lakers to take away Denver's last chance to win this game.
I mean, I couldn't dream this stuff up if I tried.
Earth to Karl #3: Kleiza was sort of an offensive asset last year, but this year, he fell off badly and should not be playing in this series. Period. At the very least, Balkman should be getting the minutes Kleiza is getting.
Earth to Karl #4: For the love of the man in the sky George Karl, if you could not bear to start J.R. Smith in this series (and long before it) why didn't you start Guard-Forward Renaldo Balkman? He is actually a better defender than is Dahntay Jones, and while not being a full scale pro offensive player, at least he is better than Jones offensively as well. He's very much like a younger and slightly less talented version of Chris Andersen.
KARL HAS UNDERESTIMATED BOTH SMITH AND THE GAME OF BASKETBALL
Sorry Mr. Karl, your inability to fully appreciate J.R. Smith and the offensive vision and weapons he brings on the court was what did you in in game 1. You have failed in your task to make Smith all that he can be; he needs to start to be all that he can be. Mr. Karl, you were destined to lose this game due to your conclusions and actions going back many, many months ago. And this Smith thing may very well do you in for the series.
Yes, this is a little thing compared to your offensive coaching shortcomings in general. But in a tight game in the Western Conference Finals, all it takes is a relatively little thing to lose a game you should have won.
To summarize mathematically, for the Nuggets to win, Smith needs to be playing 30-35 minutes a game, Balkman 10-15 minutes a game, Carter should be backing Billups, and Jones should be backing J.R. Smith. Carter and Billups should never ever be on the court at the same time.
Mr. Karl, your team needed J.R. Smith to start this game, to have the confidence of a starter, to have the 3-point shooting of a starter, and the courage to attack the Great Wall of Los Angeles of a starter. Bench players do not ever have much if any success taking it to the rack against the Great Wall of Los Angeles. You needed Smith to be in the flow with the other starters, to not be the odd man out at crunch time like he was.
Instead of a full scale, starting J.R. Smith at the end of the game, you had J.R. Smith standing there on the line with 3 seconds left and having to miss his second free throw on purpose so that the Nuggets might get lucky and be able to stuff in a tying bucket at the buzzer.
Instead, Kobe Bryant, another 2-guard like Smith, snagged Smith's intentional miss and heeved it down court as the last 3 seconds ran out.
Let's compare here:
Kobe Bryant, Lakers starter, 2-guard, Superstar and usually almost perfect, is fully trusted by his Coach even though he can be a little impulsive, headstrong, and immature. And even though he used to be much more so than now.
J.R. Smith: Nuggets reserve, 2-guard, definitely a Star and almost a Superstar, is NOT trusted all that much by his Coach because he can be impulsive, headstrong, and immature. And because he used to be much more so than now.
See the difference? See one reason that Phil Jackson is a better Coach than is George Karl?
Phil Jackson always respects offense, and he will make any player who can bring offense all that he can be. He will not stuff a player like J.R. Smith down a hole on the bench somewhere. Granted, the very risk-averse Lakers' managers would probably never "take a chance" with a very young and raw player such as Smith in the first place. But if they did have him, Phil Jackson would not stuff him down a rat hole on the bench.
Jackson does not mess around with trying to have someone win the Best 6th Man Award. He puts his best five players out there as starters, and he uses a large rotation, almost always 9 players and sometimes 10, with the 4-5 reserves being insurance policies for wins. The idea behind all these reserves as insurance is that you have four or even five wild card chances amongst your reservies to empower and enable a player who is "feeling it" in a particular game, and so is able to pump in 10-15 points in 10-20 minutes, and/or is able to make some brilliant stops.
Coaches: follow what Phil Jackson does! Trust me (or actually trust Phil, laugh out loud) you will win more games that way.
Another thing Mr. Karl does not understand besides the importance of offense in general is that 2-guards are supposed to be a little impulsive and headstrong and they are in most team situations supposed to be a little more concerned with offense than with defense. The position is called "shooting guard". Shooting as in what is done on offense. Get it?
Guards who are careful and thinking often and not usually instinctual and impulsive, are point guards, not shooting guards. You need both kinds of guards on your team to win the Quest.
An NBA coach, just like any coach, is supposed to make all of his players all that they can be. Sports is not about pigeonholing and red flagging players for personality characteristcs beyond their control and that have little impact on playing the game when all is said and done.
I will grant you that Karl has come a long way from two years ago, when Smith was not even allowed to play a dozen minutes a game in the Nuggets 4-1 first round loss to the Spurs. He wasn't allowed to play at all, in fact.
What a confidence booster and good development that was. Not.
Unfortunately, Mr. Karl has not come far enough with respect to J.R. Smith and, as a direct result, Smith has not come far enough and, as a direct result of that, the Nuggets lost game one of this series. One thing leads to another, you know.
More broadly, it seems at the moment that the Nuggets are going to lose this series. The number one reason will NOT be that defensive intensity and a lot of fouling is a hopeless strategy. (If that's the only way you can defend well, then you have no choice but to go for it.)
No, it seems that the Nuggets are going to lose the series because Karl and the Nuggets do not understand that basketball is NOT biased in favor of defense the way football is. Karl and the Nuggets do not understand that you can not have a substantial number of players out there who have very little role to play in the offense.
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Monday, May 18, 2009
That Team With Nine Rings to Play That Amazing Team--Lakers vs Nuggets, 2009
On every journey where almost everyone you run up against is tying to stop you from reaching the destination, you will eventually come to a river that seems too wide or too swift to cross, a mountain too towering and rocky to climb up and over, or a wilderness to big to find your way out of. The Conference finals, the final four of the NBA, have been where these kinds of almost insurmountable obstacles have been engaged and then the journey ended for dozens of very, very good and some extremely good teams over the decades.
There have been millions who have sworn that they saw NBA Champions never crowned playing and losing in some of the Conference Finals, because they were knocked off by a fluke or by unfair fate in the Conference Final.
How about for example the 2000 Portland Trailblazers, who lost to the 2000 Los Angeles Lakers in game seven of the West finals when the Lakers mounted the biggest comeback in a 7th game in history, 15 points, in the 4th quarter no less. And you thought Kobe Bryant and the Lakers had trouble this year with Aaron Brooks, Sean Battier, Ron Artest, and the Rockets? That was nothing compared to having to deal with the 2000 Blazers and their 15 point fourth quarter, game seven lead.
Conference Finals losers can be teams that may have been more talented than the ones that defeated them and that went on to the NBA Championship. They include teams that were proud, with amazing energy, amazing spirit, and amazing will to compete. Teams that were often younger, teams that had a dreamer or two, a player for example like the Nuggets’ Nene, whose dream to come to the United States and be in the NBA playoffs came true. Teams whose players did not have many fat Nike contracts, if any at all. Teams that millions swore were going to win it all. Teams that in a perfect world would never be called “the loser” of the Conference Final, but only maybe “the team that was not chosen”.
Or sometimes the Conference Final loser was and will be the team whose coaching staff did not understand the game of basketball as well as the other staff did.
Now the Nuggets have come to that river, or to that mountain, or to that wilderness. Or actually they have come up to all three at once; the Lakers are that good. They have come up to the Los Angeles “Nine Rings” Lakers. They have come up to the Great Wall of Los Angeles, formed by Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum, and Trevor Ariza. Although probably not the biggest such Wall in NBA history, it’s the kind of wall that ordinary semifinal winners don’t get past.
ON THE QUEST TO DETERMINE HOW TO GET PAST THE WALL
What exactly separates the winners from the losers is what this site is all about. We already have made a lot of progress in identifying the real keys to winning the Quest, but there is a good distance to go still. We will produce as many reports and take as long as needed to find all of the reasons.
In the near future, we will have a page where there will be a summary, Master List of all identified factors that allow teams to win the Quest. We might call it the “How to Win the Quest for the Ring for Dummies Who Don't Have the Time to find out the Whys and the How’s". In other words, there will be a warning at the top that the devil is in the details and just knowing the summary is not going to get you very far, since you have to know how to specifically achieve those things, and since you have to know when you don't have the prerequisites to achieve one or more of them.
A FEW OF THE THINGS THE NUGGETS TAUGHT US IN 2008-09
The Nuggets, those unpredictable devils coached by someone who we sometimes think of as a blood relative of the devil, have helped this site a lot this year, by teaching us, among many other things, that:
1. You can not predict basketball winners or losers, even playoff series, weeks or months in advance. It’s not like if you are an economist predicting the unemployment rate or the gross domestic product that will be revealed at the next report, which is actually easy to get right by comparison. Injuries alone make the whole idea ridiculous, but predicting series far in advance would not work even if there were no injuries.
2. You can get one of the best defensive players in the League for almost no money, as the Nuggets did this year with Chris Andersen. All managers should donate $1,000 to charity as a penalty for not picking up the unemployed Andersen before the Nuggets did. What is wrong with you people, you 29 managements that just stood around with your hands in your pockets while the Nuggets swiped Andersen off the waiver wires for chump change, whereupon Quest made a fool of itself by reporting that the Nuggets could not go very far with Andersen, since clearly the other teams had little if any interest in him.
Well, it turned out that Andersen was the 2nd best total and per game blocker in the NBA this year, behind only Dwight Howard of the final four Magic in first. Since Andersen played only 20.6 minutes per game while Howard played 35.7 minutes per game, the true blocking leader was Andersen by a country mile; Andersen led the NBA by a massive amount in percentage of possessions resulting in his making a block.
For the overall picutre, here are the top 20 defenders according to the Basketball Reference site:
1. Dwight Howard-ORL 94.6
2. Kevin Garnett-BOS 97.5
3. LeBron James-CLE 99.1
4. Anderson Varejao-CLE 100.0
5. Kendrick Perkins-BOS 100.2
6. Tim Duncan-SAS 100.2
7. Zydrunas Ilgauskas-CLE 100.5
8. Chris Andersen-DEN 100.6
9. Yao Ming-HOU 100.8
10. Rajon Rondo-BOS 100.9
11. Lamar Odom-LAL 101.6
12. Trevor Ariza-LAL 102.1
13. Luis Scola-HOU 102.3
14. Gerald Wallace-CHA 102.4
15. Joel Przybilla-POR 102.4
16. Samuel Dalembert-PHI 102.6
17. Emeka Okafor-CHA 102.7
18. Rashard Lewis-ORL 102.8
19. Chris Paul-NOH 103.1
20. Ron Artest-HOU 103.3
You see how Chris Andersen is way, way up there, in between Yao Ming and Tim Duncan? That is some serious company. To say that Andersen was for real would be a stupid understatement.
The icing on the cake turned out to be that Andersen also converted numerous defensive rebounds to offensive rebounds and scores, by almost literally flying in from 10, 15, even 20 feet out, denying the defensive rebound to the dumbfounded would be rebounder, and stuffing it in for the score.
3. Your fans may forgive you even if you in effect declare that how you were playing the game in recent years was dumb and goofy. Or probably, it is more accurate to say that most of the fans you had back then have moved on to other interests, and now you have a new group of hardcore fans who won't know about or will make excuses about last year, and believe no matter what.
Change your scheme, and you get a whole new fan base, which makes running a sports franchise successfully far easier than I thought it was. Now I guess I know why NBA general managers are not fired all that often: their jobs are not as difficult as I was thinking.
I mean, the Nuggets' manager recently won an award for undoing the stupid mistake he made earlier, for getting rid of Allen Iverson, after he himself made the blunder of obtaining him less than two years earlier. How many awards have you won by undoing your own blunder, laugh out loud?
KARL DIDN'T LIKE HIS OWN TEAM, AND THE QUEST WAS BORN
One such 2008-09 Nuggets "super fan” would be George Karl, and I’ll tell you a secret: this was quite a reversal. Karl was not a big fan of the Nuggets in 2006-07, and he almost hated the Nuggets last year, in 2007-08. He hated his own team, apparently because he had no faith in offense winning a lot of games, and/or in his ability to coach offense.
Meanwhile, and by contrast, Quest was born as a Nuggets site in late 2006, and when the doctor slapped us in the ass and we started breathing as a basketball winning information machine, we were really, really liking the almost limitless offensive potential of those two Nuggets teams.
We followed every game, every move of those teams, and gradually grew to hate the failure of the Nuggets to do much with the offense other than watch Allen Iverson run around and take a lot of shots and make a lot of assists and get to the line a whole lot because the referees have a lot of respect for a Hall of Fame, less than six feet tall, point guard who is playing both guard pisitions at once but no one gives him credit for it since there is no such position.
But that was then and this is now.
GAME ON--TUESDAY MAY 19 2009
So go ahead Nuggets, you go out there and take your best shot against those Lakers with their metro area of over nine million people and with their nine rings. While you have less than three million and zero rings.
Try to confuse the Lakers, Coach Phil Jackson, and the referees, by having two completely different ways of playing. Sometimes you can play according to George Karl’s half insane all defense and fast breaking all the time way of playing, and sometimes you can play some real hoops, like you did in games four and five of the Mavericks series.
It appears that Dallas Coach Rick Carlisle and one of the top ten veteran players in the League, Dirk Nowitzki, were dead serious when they said that the Nuggets can advance to play in the Champjionship, most likely versus the Cavaliers. Endorsements from both the Coach and the best player don’t come along every day.
QUEST VIEW IN JANUARY, AND NOW ON THE EVE OF THE SERIES
While we still don’t think the Nuggets can get to the Championship, Quest is proud of the Nuggets and proud that this site was born as a site dedicated only to them. We’re alright with having been made to look a little foolish by predicting that the team would fall into many of George Karl’s traps, many of which are set up as a result of the man’s lack of confidence about his own teams and about the power of basketball to give the win to those who love to make hoops, regardless of supposed personality problems they may appear to have.
I mean, the man for real falls into his own traps! But the Nuggets players have lately shown some amazing ability to keep away from many of those George Karl traps.
Specifically, we predicted, way back in January, that the Nuggets would be bounced in the playoffs quickly again. We made it sound so official and authoritative, as if it definitely would happen. We were 100% convinced that the Nuggets would be limited by Karl in enough ways that they would lose again. But against the Mavericks if not before, they did a prison break out of that jail.
So all we ended up doing back in January by making it a foregone conclusion was a good job at setting ourselves up to look goofy. It was as if we were predicting the next number of jobs lost report, which you can do over 98% of the time without looking goofy, because it turns out that it is much easier to predict economics developments than it is whether a team will win a playoff series three months later.
In January we made a list of sixteen detailed reasons why the Nuggets would lose. In April! Many of the items on that list have not come to pass, as a result of this team being too smart and too athletic to fall into those traps.
On the other hand, if and when, as expected, the Nuggets lose to the Lakers, some of those reasons are sure to be involved.
But damn, all I had to do to avoid looking goofy during this whole "The Nuggets Shock America" thing was to phrase the claim this way: “The Nuggets will lose in the first round if many of the following things happen. And they will win if many of these things do not happen." But no, I had to sound like Nostradamus, laugh out loud.
It's funny how that, as well as Quest botched this up, writers who already have written millions of basketball words over more than a decade, such as David Friedman, know enough to couch all of their predictions this way: he starts all of his playoff predictions with: (name of team) will win if…, but (name of team) will win if. And he waits until just before a series starts to even do that.
That’s how we will be usually phrasing predictions in future reports, I can assure you. We made a few mistakes during your first million words, what more can I say?
But for the record, Friedman predicted the Nuggets would not get out the first round also. Laugh out loud; Mr. Five Million Words was wrong too.
Actually though, to be fair to ESPN writers, to sportswriters everywhere else, to Mr. Friedman, and to myself, I think hardly anyone in America other than a few teenagers and a few super fans in Denver predicted that the Nuggets would be playing the Lakers in the West finals this year.
THE NUGGETS' AMAZING SEASON
In the end all this Nuggets season was ever going to be about was whether the tragedy of last year would be repeated, if not in the same way in some other new, twisted way. The Nuggets went down in 2008 as the only 50 wins or more playoff team to not win a single, solitary playoff team!
The questions for this year were: Would the Nuggets quit the Quest again, during a game no less, as Carmelo Anthony realized they did last year? Would it be another sad year in general?
See Carmelo Anthony informing everyone, after game 3 in May 2008, that the Nuggets quit during the 2008 Nuggets-Lakers series, at the end of this report.
Although we knew this season could not possibly be as tragic as last year, we were convinced it was going to be another sad one. We thought that the Nuggets, having run out of money and offensive credibility, were simply not going to have the manpower to compete with teams such as the Hornets and the Mavericks.
THE GANG OF FOUR
We asked for example: is Chris Andersen anything more than a circus act, and who the heck is Dahntay Jones? We usually but not always spelled Jones’ first name right.
Andersen, Jones, the veteran Kenyon Martin, and the not as much of a little kid anymore either JR Smith were the Nuggets’ tough guys this year, the "we are going to get some stops from uncalled fouls and we don’t give a damn about it" crew.
But if that rough attitude you have with a bunch of your players is the only way you can defend, if you don’t have the best of hands for defending without fouling, and if you probably can’t get the referees to give you the calls they give to the well known defensive veterans, then you might as well defend that way, even though you most likely can not possibly win a Ring by doing that.
Another reason you can’t blame Denver for doing it though is because everyone with half a brain can realize that not all fouls are called in the NBA, and that the more aggressive and energetic a team is on defense, the more uncalled fouls they will “earn” from the zebras.
It’s as if the Nuggets were saying to the refs: “We know you won’t give us rogues many uncalled fouls individually, but we’ll operate our defense in overdrive and get a good number of uncalled fouls as a team. We will swarm you zebras with energetic and rough defending. Because maybe you will not individually but you will respect us as a team. And that will get us some wins”
And that rough and tough way of defending did get the Nuggets wins they would not have gotten otherwise, about 10-15 of them in the regular season. But as already reported, and as you will see proved in detail in the future, only a tiny number of teams have won the Quest while doing this, and all of them had a higher quality defense to go along with the rough defending.
OTHER 2009 NUGGETS
The Nuggets' center Nene played the whole year for the first time in the history of the World, and as someone who can hardly be stopped. I mean, Tim Duncan is probably happy he didn’t have to go up against the too much like a freight train to stop Brazilian.
We thought that certain players were still going to be little kids, whether or not they were benched by George “The Bencher” Karl.
But there are no little kids on the Nuggets this year, even Dahntay Jones you would hardly call a "little kid," and Karl has not forbidden anyone from playing in the playoffs this year. So the manpower has appeared out of nowhere, as has Karl liking his team for a change.
We were very happy especially that Carmelo Anthony this year proved that he is not a little kid anymore, and that he proved to be a little bit of a rebel, against his Coach to some extent. Being a man and being a little bit of a rebel are two among many prerequisites for winning the Quest. Not to mention that most teams that have won the Quest have had a player who is totally dedicated to and responsible for making hoops, with everything else paling in significance.
For the Nuggets it was not another sad year at all.
It was all just amazing.
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CARMELO ANTHONY AFTER GAME THREE OF LAST YEAR'S 4-0 ROUT BY THE LAKERS OVER THE NUGGETS--THIS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN ON A PRO BASKETBALL TEAM
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There have been millions who have sworn that they saw NBA Champions never crowned playing and losing in some of the Conference Finals, because they were knocked off by a fluke or by unfair fate in the Conference Final.
How about for example the 2000 Portland Trailblazers, who lost to the 2000 Los Angeles Lakers in game seven of the West finals when the Lakers mounted the biggest comeback in a 7th game in history, 15 points, in the 4th quarter no less. And you thought Kobe Bryant and the Lakers had trouble this year with Aaron Brooks, Sean Battier, Ron Artest, and the Rockets? That was nothing compared to having to deal with the 2000 Blazers and their 15 point fourth quarter, game seven lead.
Conference Finals losers can be teams that may have been more talented than the ones that defeated them and that went on to the NBA Championship. They include teams that were proud, with amazing energy, amazing spirit, and amazing will to compete. Teams that were often younger, teams that had a dreamer or two, a player for example like the Nuggets’ Nene, whose dream to come to the United States and be in the NBA playoffs came true. Teams whose players did not have many fat Nike contracts, if any at all. Teams that millions swore were going to win it all. Teams that in a perfect world would never be called “the loser” of the Conference Final, but only maybe “the team that was not chosen”.
Or sometimes the Conference Final loser was and will be the team whose coaching staff did not understand the game of basketball as well as the other staff did.
Now the Nuggets have come to that river, or to that mountain, or to that wilderness. Or actually they have come up to all three at once; the Lakers are that good. They have come up to the Los Angeles “Nine Rings” Lakers. They have come up to the Great Wall of Los Angeles, formed by Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum, and Trevor Ariza. Although probably not the biggest such Wall in NBA history, it’s the kind of wall that ordinary semifinal winners don’t get past.
ON THE QUEST TO DETERMINE HOW TO GET PAST THE WALL
What exactly separates the winners from the losers is what this site is all about. We already have made a lot of progress in identifying the real keys to winning the Quest, but there is a good distance to go still. We will produce as many reports and take as long as needed to find all of the reasons.
In the near future, we will have a page where there will be a summary, Master List of all identified factors that allow teams to win the Quest. We might call it the “How to Win the Quest for the Ring for Dummies Who Don't Have the Time to find out the Whys and the How’s". In other words, there will be a warning at the top that the devil is in the details and just knowing the summary is not going to get you very far, since you have to know how to specifically achieve those things, and since you have to know when you don't have the prerequisites to achieve one or more of them.
A FEW OF THE THINGS THE NUGGETS TAUGHT US IN 2008-09
The Nuggets, those unpredictable devils coached by someone who we sometimes think of as a blood relative of the devil, have helped this site a lot this year, by teaching us, among many other things, that:
1. You can not predict basketball winners or losers, even playoff series, weeks or months in advance. It’s not like if you are an economist predicting the unemployment rate or the gross domestic product that will be revealed at the next report, which is actually easy to get right by comparison. Injuries alone make the whole idea ridiculous, but predicting series far in advance would not work even if there were no injuries.
2. You can get one of the best defensive players in the League for almost no money, as the Nuggets did this year with Chris Andersen. All managers should donate $1,000 to charity as a penalty for not picking up the unemployed Andersen before the Nuggets did. What is wrong with you people, you 29 managements that just stood around with your hands in your pockets while the Nuggets swiped Andersen off the waiver wires for chump change, whereupon Quest made a fool of itself by reporting that the Nuggets could not go very far with Andersen, since clearly the other teams had little if any interest in him.
Well, it turned out that Andersen was the 2nd best total and per game blocker in the NBA this year, behind only Dwight Howard of the final four Magic in first. Since Andersen played only 20.6 minutes per game while Howard played 35.7 minutes per game, the true blocking leader was Andersen by a country mile; Andersen led the NBA by a massive amount in percentage of possessions resulting in his making a block.
For the overall picutre, here are the top 20 defenders according to the Basketball Reference site:
1. Dwight Howard-ORL 94.6
2. Kevin Garnett-BOS 97.5
3. LeBron James-CLE 99.1
4. Anderson Varejao-CLE 100.0
5. Kendrick Perkins-BOS 100.2
6. Tim Duncan-SAS 100.2
7. Zydrunas Ilgauskas-CLE 100.5
8. Chris Andersen-DEN 100.6
9. Yao Ming-HOU 100.8
10. Rajon Rondo-BOS 100.9
11. Lamar Odom-LAL 101.6
12. Trevor Ariza-LAL 102.1
13. Luis Scola-HOU 102.3
14. Gerald Wallace-CHA 102.4
15. Joel Przybilla-POR 102.4
16. Samuel Dalembert-PHI 102.6
17. Emeka Okafor-CHA 102.7
18. Rashard Lewis-ORL 102.8
19. Chris Paul-NOH 103.1
20. Ron Artest-HOU 103.3
You see how Chris Andersen is way, way up there, in between Yao Ming and Tim Duncan? That is some serious company. To say that Andersen was for real would be a stupid understatement.
The icing on the cake turned out to be that Andersen also converted numerous defensive rebounds to offensive rebounds and scores, by almost literally flying in from 10, 15, even 20 feet out, denying the defensive rebound to the dumbfounded would be rebounder, and stuffing it in for the score.
3. Your fans may forgive you even if you in effect declare that how you were playing the game in recent years was dumb and goofy. Or probably, it is more accurate to say that most of the fans you had back then have moved on to other interests, and now you have a new group of hardcore fans who won't know about or will make excuses about last year, and believe no matter what.
Change your scheme, and you get a whole new fan base, which makes running a sports franchise successfully far easier than I thought it was. Now I guess I know why NBA general managers are not fired all that often: their jobs are not as difficult as I was thinking.
I mean, the Nuggets' manager recently won an award for undoing the stupid mistake he made earlier, for getting rid of Allen Iverson, after he himself made the blunder of obtaining him less than two years earlier. How many awards have you won by undoing your own blunder, laugh out loud?
KARL DIDN'T LIKE HIS OWN TEAM, AND THE QUEST WAS BORN
One such 2008-09 Nuggets "super fan” would be George Karl, and I’ll tell you a secret: this was quite a reversal. Karl was not a big fan of the Nuggets in 2006-07, and he almost hated the Nuggets last year, in 2007-08. He hated his own team, apparently because he had no faith in offense winning a lot of games, and/or in his ability to coach offense.
Meanwhile, and by contrast, Quest was born as a Nuggets site in late 2006, and when the doctor slapped us in the ass and we started breathing as a basketball winning information machine, we were really, really liking the almost limitless offensive potential of those two Nuggets teams.
We followed every game, every move of those teams, and gradually grew to hate the failure of the Nuggets to do much with the offense other than watch Allen Iverson run around and take a lot of shots and make a lot of assists and get to the line a whole lot because the referees have a lot of respect for a Hall of Fame, less than six feet tall, point guard who is playing both guard pisitions at once but no one gives him credit for it since there is no such position.
But that was then and this is now.
GAME ON--TUESDAY MAY 19 2009
So go ahead Nuggets, you go out there and take your best shot against those Lakers with their metro area of over nine million people and with their nine rings. While you have less than three million and zero rings.
Try to confuse the Lakers, Coach Phil Jackson, and the referees, by having two completely different ways of playing. Sometimes you can play according to George Karl’s half insane all defense and fast breaking all the time way of playing, and sometimes you can play some real hoops, like you did in games four and five of the Mavericks series.
It appears that Dallas Coach Rick Carlisle and one of the top ten veteran players in the League, Dirk Nowitzki, were dead serious when they said that the Nuggets can advance to play in the Champjionship, most likely versus the Cavaliers. Endorsements from both the Coach and the best player don’t come along every day.
QUEST VIEW IN JANUARY, AND NOW ON THE EVE OF THE SERIES
While we still don’t think the Nuggets can get to the Championship, Quest is proud of the Nuggets and proud that this site was born as a site dedicated only to them. We’re alright with having been made to look a little foolish by predicting that the team would fall into many of George Karl’s traps, many of which are set up as a result of the man’s lack of confidence about his own teams and about the power of basketball to give the win to those who love to make hoops, regardless of supposed personality problems they may appear to have.
I mean, the man for real falls into his own traps! But the Nuggets players have lately shown some amazing ability to keep away from many of those George Karl traps.
Specifically, we predicted, way back in January, that the Nuggets would be bounced in the playoffs quickly again. We made it sound so official and authoritative, as if it definitely would happen. We were 100% convinced that the Nuggets would be limited by Karl in enough ways that they would lose again. But against the Mavericks if not before, they did a prison break out of that jail.
So all we ended up doing back in January by making it a foregone conclusion was a good job at setting ourselves up to look goofy. It was as if we were predicting the next number of jobs lost report, which you can do over 98% of the time without looking goofy, because it turns out that it is much easier to predict economics developments than it is whether a team will win a playoff series three months later.
In January we made a list of sixteen detailed reasons why the Nuggets would lose. In April! Many of the items on that list have not come to pass, as a result of this team being too smart and too athletic to fall into those traps.
On the other hand, if and when, as expected, the Nuggets lose to the Lakers, some of those reasons are sure to be involved.
But damn, all I had to do to avoid looking goofy during this whole "The Nuggets Shock America" thing was to phrase the claim this way: “The Nuggets will lose in the first round if many of the following things happen. And they will win if many of these things do not happen." But no, I had to sound like Nostradamus, laugh out loud.
It's funny how that, as well as Quest botched this up, writers who already have written millions of basketball words over more than a decade, such as David Friedman, know enough to couch all of their predictions this way: he starts all of his playoff predictions with: (name of team) will win if…, but (name of team) will win if. And he waits until just before a series starts to even do that.
That’s how we will be usually phrasing predictions in future reports, I can assure you. We made a few mistakes during your first million words, what more can I say?
But for the record, Friedman predicted the Nuggets would not get out the first round also. Laugh out loud; Mr. Five Million Words was wrong too.
Actually though, to be fair to ESPN writers, to sportswriters everywhere else, to Mr. Friedman, and to myself, I think hardly anyone in America other than a few teenagers and a few super fans in Denver predicted that the Nuggets would be playing the Lakers in the West finals this year.
THE NUGGETS' AMAZING SEASON
In the end all this Nuggets season was ever going to be about was whether the tragedy of last year would be repeated, if not in the same way in some other new, twisted way. The Nuggets went down in 2008 as the only 50 wins or more playoff team to not win a single, solitary playoff team!
The questions for this year were: Would the Nuggets quit the Quest again, during a game no less, as Carmelo Anthony realized they did last year? Would it be another sad year in general?
See Carmelo Anthony informing everyone, after game 3 in May 2008, that the Nuggets quit during the 2008 Nuggets-Lakers series, at the end of this report.
Although we knew this season could not possibly be as tragic as last year, we were convinced it was going to be another sad one. We thought that the Nuggets, having run out of money and offensive credibility, were simply not going to have the manpower to compete with teams such as the Hornets and the Mavericks.
THE GANG OF FOUR
We asked for example: is Chris Andersen anything more than a circus act, and who the heck is Dahntay Jones? We usually but not always spelled Jones’ first name right.
Andersen, Jones, the veteran Kenyon Martin, and the not as much of a little kid anymore either JR Smith were the Nuggets’ tough guys this year, the "we are going to get some stops from uncalled fouls and we don’t give a damn about it" crew.
But if that rough attitude you have with a bunch of your players is the only way you can defend, if you don’t have the best of hands for defending without fouling, and if you probably can’t get the referees to give you the calls they give to the well known defensive veterans, then you might as well defend that way, even though you most likely can not possibly win a Ring by doing that.
Another reason you can’t blame Denver for doing it though is because everyone with half a brain can realize that not all fouls are called in the NBA, and that the more aggressive and energetic a team is on defense, the more uncalled fouls they will “earn” from the zebras.
It’s as if the Nuggets were saying to the refs: “We know you won’t give us rogues many uncalled fouls individually, but we’ll operate our defense in overdrive and get a good number of uncalled fouls as a team. We will swarm you zebras with energetic and rough defending. Because maybe you will not individually but you will respect us as a team. And that will get us some wins”
And that rough and tough way of defending did get the Nuggets wins they would not have gotten otherwise, about 10-15 of them in the regular season. But as already reported, and as you will see proved in detail in the future, only a tiny number of teams have won the Quest while doing this, and all of them had a higher quality defense to go along with the rough defending.
OTHER 2009 NUGGETS
The Nuggets' center Nene played the whole year for the first time in the history of the World, and as someone who can hardly be stopped. I mean, Tim Duncan is probably happy he didn’t have to go up against the too much like a freight train to stop Brazilian.
We thought that certain players were still going to be little kids, whether or not they were benched by George “The Bencher” Karl.
But there are no little kids on the Nuggets this year, even Dahntay Jones you would hardly call a "little kid," and Karl has not forbidden anyone from playing in the playoffs this year. So the manpower has appeared out of nowhere, as has Karl liking his team for a change.
We were very happy especially that Carmelo Anthony this year proved that he is not a little kid anymore, and that he proved to be a little bit of a rebel, against his Coach to some extent. Being a man and being a little bit of a rebel are two among many prerequisites for winning the Quest. Not to mention that most teams that have won the Quest have had a player who is totally dedicated to and responsible for making hoops, with everything else paling in significance.
For the Nuggets it was not another sad year at all.
It was all just amazing.
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CARMELO ANTHONY AFTER GAME THREE OF LAST YEAR'S 4-0 ROUT BY THE LAKERS OVER THE NUGGETS--THIS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN ON A PRO BASKETBALL TEAM
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