Choose and click on a report and your tab will reload with that report showing about 1/10 the way down the page, below the two title listing panels just below here.

There are actually many more ways to choose and read Reports. For a complete description of all options, see this User Guide article.

REPORTS #1 TO #20, GOING BACK IN TIME

REPORTS #21 TO #40, GOING BACK IN TIME


Saturday, December 6, 2008

Fast Break: A Comparison Fair to Iverson For a Change

Now let's make a comparison that is fair to Iverson for a change. Here are the 2007-08 assist ratios for Iverson and for the other players who played his position, 2-guard (shooting guard):

Allen Iverson, DEN 21.4
Manu Ginobili, SAS 19.4
Kobe Bryant, LAL 16.2
Dwyane Wade, MIA 20.6
Kevin Martin, SAC 9.0
Brandon Roy, POR 22.6
Monta Ellis, GSW 16.6
Michael Redd, MIL 13.1
Vince Carter, NJN 19.0
Tracy McGrady, HOU 19.2
Jason Richardson, CHA 12.7
Ronnie Brewer, UTH 14.1
Richard Hamilton, DET 19.2
J.R. Smith, DEN 12.9
Mike Dunleavy, IND 16.3
Joe Johnson, ATL 20.1
Brent Barry, HOU 22.4
Ben Gordon, CHI 13.6
Ray Allen, BOS 15.6
Mike Miller, MIN 17.9
Jamal Crawford, NYK 18.5
Leandro Barbosa, PHO 14.9
Sasha Vujacic, LAL 11.1
Rashad McCants, MIN 12.0
Anthony Parker, TOR 15.9
C.J. Miles, UTH 15.6
John Salmons, SAC 16.1
Maurice Evans, ORL 11.5
Rodney Stuckey, DET 23.2
Luther Head, HOU 19.2
Carlos Delfino, TOR 15.8
Bobby Jackson, HOU 18.8
Kelenna Azubuike, GSW 9.6
Jerry Stackhouse, DAL 17.6
Kirk Snyder, MIN 18.6
Jarrett Jack, IND 25.7
Willie Green, PHI 12.6
DeShawn Stevenson, WAS 20.6
Rodney Carney, MIN 6.5
Delonte West, CLE 26.6
Larry Hughes, CHI 15.3
Juan Carlos Navarro, MEM 15.5
Nick Young, WAS 9.1
Marquis Daniels, IND 15.7
Cuttino Mobley, LAC 15.8
Thabo Sefolosha, CHI 18.7
Juan Dixon, DET 23.1
Damien Wilkins, OKC 15.4
Morris Peterson, NOR 10.1
Fred Jones, NYK 22.7
Charlie Bell, MIL 25.9
Keith Bogans, ORL 13.1
Matt Carroll, CHA 9.4
Tony Allen, BOS 16.5
Raja Bell, PHO 16.4
Arron Afflalo, DET 14.2
Kareem Rush, IND 12.1
Gordan Giricek, PHO 14.5
Antoine Wright, DAL 16.4
Yakhouba Diawara, DEN 18.4
Daequan Cook, MIA 11.1
Quinton Ross, LAC 18.4
Eddie Jones, DAL 24.3
Sasha Pavlovic, CLE 14.3
Greg Buckner, MEM 20.0
Mardy Collins, NYK 26.4
Bobby Jones, NYK 12.8

Dwyane Wade has stated that he does not want to play point guard, so that explains him. Iverson has never stated any such thing.

The obvious thing to see here is that Iverson was way ahead of most of the 2-guards in assisting!

The handful of 2-guards (shooting guards) who were ahead of Iverson in assisting are definitely all combo guards, and most likely a good number of them are playing the 2-guard only because that is best for their teams, either because their team does not have a better 2-guard, or because their team has a 1-guard (point guard) who is better than they are. In other words, I would bet that most of the other teams have good excuses for playing players who get a lot of assists at the 2-guard rather than the 1-guard.

But the Nuggets had no player who could play point guard better than Iverson, which it took them until the playoffs to realize! (Actually, I don't think they actually realized it even then laugh out loud.) And the Nuggets had one of the better 2-guards in the League ready to start if called on, J.R. Smith. So I hardly think that the Nuggets had any excuse other than stupidity. Or, maybe it was just Mr. Karl suffering from "J.R. Smith paranoia," which has been recently identified by basketball psychologists as an official clinical problem.

So to summarize and simplify, you had Iverson playing both guard positions at once, which ended up putting him a little above average among all 1-guards and 2-guards in assisting. Iverson was like the man without a position. He had too many assists to be a good 2-guard, and not as many assists as he could have had if he had been the 1-guard. He was like a character on the show "LOST".

As explained so often at Quest For the Ring, the correction for this was obvious: Iverson had to be the point guard all along if the Nuggets really wanted to contend.

As you can see above, Iverson while playing 2-guard, has way more of his possessions end in assists than most of the other 2-guards. Furthermore, while not responsible for the position, his assist ratio is only marginally less than the assist ratios of quality (but relatively modest assist ratio) point guards such as Tony Parker and Baron Davis.

Well, Iverson, Parker, and Davis share another obvious feature: they like to score and they can do so well. And there is no law or regulation against having a point guard who likes to take a good number of shots and to score a good number of points. The Hornets, with the high scoring PG Chris Paul, were probably the biggest surprise this past season, while Tony Parker has won several rings with the Spurs over the last several years.

There is simply no serious argument to be made that it is necessary or even just highly advisable to have a low scoring point guard rather than a high scoring point guard. There are certain athletes who can walk and chew gum at the same time and Iverson is obviously one of them. You can win with, if you know what you are doing, either a high scoring or with a very unselfish, moderate scoring point guard.

The number is important, the rank not as important. But for the record, Iverson was #57 out of 72 actual point guards in assisting, while being instructed to NOT in the least be the point guard by the twisted George Karl. Had he been instructed to be the point guard, his rank in terms of assisting would have been between #17 and #45. His rank among point guards in scoring would have been top 10, obviously. And then the rough approximation of Chris Paul, together with JR Smith at 2-guard, would have made the Nuggets about the best offense in the league, instead of only about 10th best, which in turn would have made them a real contender.
____________________________________________
Editorial Notes: A "Fast Break" is a short and quick preview of some of the topics that will be explored and proved in more detail in upcoming regular reports. Fast Breaks will often reappear in full reports with only minor reediting, but there will be more important details, more evidence, and more implications and explanations in the full reports. Moreover, there will be topics that never appear in any Fast Break in a full Report.

Fast Breaks are especially useful for the first few days after major news breaks. They are also very useful for people who will seldom or never have enough time to read a full Game/Team/League Report. Fast Breaks are the type of article that more typical web logs feature almost all or all of the time.

Post your response to anything on Quest HERE

GIVE US THE JUICE TO PRODUCE REPORTS MORE QUICKLY

Although there is a guaranteed minimum rate of Report production regardless of traffic, IT IS IN YOUR POWER to help double or triple the number of and frequency of Reports. Simply take two or three minutes as often as you can to recommend Quest and post links to Quest on your favorite sports and other sites. The resulting automatic increase of traffic will in turn increase the resources that go in to producing Quest, which in turn speeds up reporting. If you want, e-mail how you helped (include the url of where you posted a link to Quest) and we will throw some Internet love back to where you tell us on the Internet. Thank you.

Here are some quick links that you can use to find a place where you might post a link to Quest and/or to Quest content.

Share/Bookmark


HOLD MOUSE HERE TO EXPAND THIS MENU OF PLACES ON WHICH YOU CAN POST A LINK TO QUEST:



BASKETBALL SITES THAT ARE OPEN FOR CONTENT FROM ANYONE
Note: Beware of "layered" sites. None of the following are layered sites, which are sites that allow contributions from the public only in hard to find, low traffic areas, while the main areas are off limits for public input and are only for a chosen few. All of the following have at least some notable traffic, and all of them allow relatively equal and open participation. The order is from most recommended to least recommended, based on about half a dozen factors.

Bleacher Report Open Posting Site
Inside Hoops NBA Forum
Real GM NBA and Team Forums
Pro Sports Daily NBA Forum
Basketball Forum NBA Forum
Sporting News NBA Forum
Hoops Hype NBA Forum
Armchair GM Open Posting Site
SportsTwo NBA Forum
NBA Dimensions NBA Forum
OTR Basketball Forums NBA Forum
NBA Boards NBA Forum
NBA Wire NBA Forum
KFFL NBA Forum

Note: there are other forums, but they are all very low traffic and activity compared to the ones above.

MESSAGE BOARDS AT HUGE COROPORATIONS
The Fox NBA board is very low traffic, and the MSNBC NBA board doesn't exist anymore. The CBS Sports NBA Message Board is a layered site; you can NOT post topics nor expect to be considered seriously there until you have spent a few years posting there. We do not recommend CBS Sports. So the only real, fully open NBA forum hosted by a big corporation is the ESPN message board. Be forewarned though that the ESPN board is dominated by very young fans who make very short comments. On the other hand, it is a high traffic site, so we won't stop you from posting a Quest link at ESPN if you want to.

ESPN NBA Message Board

>>>I WANT TO STICK WITH THE WAY OTHER SITES PRESENT POSTS
Due to the number of, uniqueness of, and importance of the many other home page features we have, only one Report loads at a time, currently the one just above. To see the next Report (which would be the one that came out just before the one above) on this home page, click "Older Posts" that is at the very bottom of the Report showing above, just above the section header "Your Ball: Take Your Best Shot".

>>ALTERNATIVE HOME PAGES
There are three home pages, all of which have all of the Reports but which have completely different features appearing on the sidebar and below the one Report that is shown at a time. These pages have been designed so that they fully load in about 10 seconds (no more super long load times we used to be known for.)

HOME PAGE A: ALL REPORTS, READERS CONTAINING REPORTS 1-100, AND UNIQUE FEATURES
HOME PAGE B: ALL REPORTS, READERS CONTAINING REPORTS 1-100, AND UNIQUE FEATURES
HOME PAGE C: ALL REPORTS, READERS CONTAINING REPORTS 1-100, AND UNIQUE FEATURES

>>REPORT READERS: Complete freedom to rapidly choose and read what you need or want to read. The latest 40 Reports are found near the top of all three of the primary home pages (linked to just above) while Reports #41-#100 are found in three separate readers placed at various points down the page on all three primary home pages.

>>EXPRESS VERSION: Every Single Report but no Features: a Fast Loading Page: Click Here

>>FAST BREAK VERSION: The Latest 100 Reports via Report Readers Only; no Features, a Fast Loading Page: Click Here

>>QUEST ARCHIVE HOME PAGES--REPORT ARCHIVES AND A SMALL NUMBER OF CLASSIC FEATURES THAT WON'T FIT ON OTHER HOME PAGES
QUEST 4: REPORTS 101-200
QUEST 5: REPORTS 201-300
QUEST 6: REPORTS 301-400
QUEST 7: REPORTS 401-500
QUEST 8: REPORTS 501-600
QUEST 9: REPORTS 601-700
QUEST 10: REPORTS 701-800

>>FEATURES ONLY HOME PAGES: NO REPORTS, JUST FEATURES THAT WE CAN'T FIT ANYWHERE ELSE
QUEST OVERTIME
QUEST CLASSIC

>>COMPLETE TITLE INDEX: : A Complete Report Title Index, with Express Version Links to all Reports

>>LATEST 25 Reports: Direct links to the latest 25 Reports (with no truncated titles as you find with the poorly designed Google archive). This is located near the very bottom of this page.

>>GOOGLE ARCHIVE you will find this, with Reports shown by week not very far below.

>>I'M NEW AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WANT TO GO: Welcome to the Real Zone. Simply browse the page and see for yourself what is here. You will not be disappointed.

>>OR YOU CAN DO A CUSTOM GOOGLE SEARCH OF THE 13 BOOKS AND COUNTING CONTAINED ON THIS SITE>>>>>

SEARCH THE QUEST FOR THE RING--THE EQUIVALENT OF MORE THAN 13 BOOKS ABOUT BASKETBALL

Custom Search
SEARCH THE 13 BOOKS / 1.3 MILLION WORDS

REPORTS #41 TO #60, GOING BACK IN TIME

OFFICIAL SONG OF THE QUEST FOR THE RING


THE NUGGETS THEME SONG: "LIKE A ROLLING STONE": BOB DYLAN


THE GEORGE KARL THEME SONG: RIGHT PLACE, WRONG TIME: DR. JOHN


REPORTS # 61 TO #80, GOING BACK IN TIME

CARMELO ANTHONY WON THE NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP AT SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY


FREE ADVERTISING PROGRAM

FREE ADVERTISING PROGRAM
The depression, or recession, or great heist, or whatever it is, means that we should work together, or else we will sink together. Therefore, the Quest is offerring free display advertising on this site until at least June 30, 2010. The program is for anyone who has a basketball related product or service. If the free program is not extended beyond that date, we will be offerring advertising at extremely low rates. The free display ad program is currently limited to four advertisers, on a first come first serve basis. Each advertiser gets 6 months free though if we think your product or service is especially important we will extend that indefinitely.

This program is not for large corporations; it is intended for small enterprises, especially newer ones. Nor is this program for those already affiliated with a major internet commercial site, such as ebay.

To advertise for free, email a request giving your web address and some basic information about your product or service. If you get approved, we will email you back. You will be approved unless you don't really have a basketball product or service, or unless you are a big company, or unless you are already getting a large amount of traffic. After you are approved, you can email your ad. Your ad should be sized to fit either in the User Guide or the right column. For User Guide ads, the width should be close to but nor more than 675px. The height should be 100px maximum. For sidebar ads, the maximum size is 240px by 240 px. We will even make a simple but nice looking ad for you if you want.

The email address to use is nuggets1nuggets@gmail

REPORTS #81 TO #100, GOING BACK IN TIME

ALLEN IVERSON AND PISTONS COACH MICHAEL CURRY

ALLEN IVERSON AND PISTONS COACH MICHAEL CURRY

NBA BREAKING NEWS, RUMORS, AND RECENT NEWS

WHY NOT EXCHANGE LINKS WITH THE QUEST?

You can link to the Quest site with no permission needed. To link to this site, copy and paste the code below into your site. Thanks, and you can email nuggetsone@gmail.com with your site address, and we will link back if you have a basketball site. Your link will go in the right column in the same area where the other already existing such links are. You may wish to, for convenience, use the following code when you construct the link.





LARRY FITZGERALD--A GREAT ATHLETE WHO UNDERSTANDS HOW TO WIN THE QUEST

2008 SITE NEWS: THE NOT SO GOOD

NOT SO GOOD SITE NEWS:
--The Nuggets most likely will not make the playoffs this year, so we are no longer going to even pledge game report sets for every game; our plan is to produce 25 game report sets, with a set consisting of three separate reports: two breakdowns and one article. Keep in mind that game report sets are not far from 10,000 words each in length in total, so 25 report sets are in total at least as much real content for a single team as exists anywhere else.
--Special Report frequency is being cut to 8 reports a year. Look for special reports at the very end of all months except for April, May, June, and November. Special Reports are not going to be combined into Game Reports anymore. Special Reports and all other content is posted on the main site, but they are posted by themselves for easy retrieval on the Special Reports page.
--There may possibly be another disruption during the season, due to another unavoidable pain in the neck project that needs doing. Any such disruption will not exceed 1 month.

DON'T LOSE OUT: BOOKMARK NUGGETS 1 NOW--CLICK HERE

CARMELO ANTHONY AND HIS DOG

CARMELO ANTHONY AND HIS DOG